Places to Post Your Startup or Product • Hacker News Board

Re: Places to Post Your Startup or Product

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Post by radley » Wed, Apr 26, 2017, 9:08 PM UTC

toni wrote: post #5

Who would benefit from posting their product to 125 websites except spammers and growth hackers?

a) I'm releasing a Mac app for casual DJs. Mac sites are probably underviewed by my demographic and I only have a few DJ sites I can directly target.

b) I don't have to promote to all 125 sites, I can be more targeted.

c) You're automatically treating growth hacking as spam. Growth Hacking is a common promotion process - the issue is how it is accomplished. Promoting on lists - good. Making fake websites with fake articles / reviews - not so good. Paying bots to upvote - bad.

Re: Places to Post Your Startup or Product

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Post by radley » Wed, Apr 26, 2017, 9:14 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #10

radley wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused. Are you saying promotion == spam?

Posting your product indiscriminately, as is the premise of the OP, is spam. Promoting your product via Twitter or your friends is fine. (promoting a submission on Hacker News [i.e. highlighting the submission itself in an attempt to vote manipulate] is against the site rules, which is not spam but still bad)

But it's not necessarily indiscriminate. Many of these are sites that want submissions. Even Hacker News is OK if you're doing something relevant to the audience.

As an example:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14202456

Re: Places to Post Your Startup or Product

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Post by minimaxir » Wed, Apr 26, 2017, 9:15 PM UTC

radley wrote: post #12

minimaxir wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Posting your product indiscriminately, as is the premise of the OP, is spam. Promoting your product via Twitter or your friends is fine. (promoting a submission on Hacker News [i.e. highlighting the submission itself in an attempt to vote manipulate] is against the site rules, which is not spam but still bad)

But it's not necessarily indiscriminate. Many of these are sites that want submissions. Even Hacker News is OK if you're doing something relevant to the audience. As an example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14202456

Edited my comment to clarify that voting manipulation is bad, not Show HN itself. Show HN of course is fine.

Re: Places to Post Your Startup or Product

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Post by welanes » Wed, Apr 26, 2017, 10:27 PM UTC

Quora is probably one of the better resources on that list because rather that listing your product on the shelf next to 1000 others, it allows you to discover people looking for solutions just like yours.

For example, say you're building an Android weather widget (for some reason). Build a profile where you're an 'Android', 'Widget', 'Weather' expert and Quora will surface this question for you to answer* : https://www.quora.com/Android-Application-Which-is-the-best-...

This targeted approach is much more valuable for your product, your time, and for the person asking the question.

*Of course it helps to actually have the best weather widget.

Re: Places to Post Your Startup or Product

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Post by uladzislau » Wed, Apr 26, 2017, 11:19 PM UTC

I'd prefer 25 good reputable vetted places - i guarantee some of these sites are not even loading.

Re: Places to Post Your Startup or Product

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Post by metalmanac » Thu, Apr 27, 2017, 1:43 AM UTC

How many of those will actually bring in meaningful traffic? It would be nice to see a list from people who have successfully launched a product on multiple platforms and have traffic numbers to backup their suggestions.

Re: Places to Post Your Startup or Product

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 27, 2017, 4:05 AM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #10

radley wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused. Are you saying promotion == spam?

Posting your product indiscriminately, as is the premise of the OP, is spam. Promoting your product via Twitter or your friends is fine. (promoting a submission on Hacker News [i.e. highlighting the submission itself in an attempt to vote manipulate] is against the site rules, which is not spam but still bad)

[deleted]

Re: Places to Post Your Startup or Product

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Post by LoSboccacc » Thu, Apr 27, 2017, 6:06 AM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #4

Since this is on front page, here's a little rant about spamming sites with your product: Don't . Yes, discoverability is broken. But that doesn't justify spamming, or other "growth hacking" that the Product Hunt culture has made socially acceptable (in fact, there has been a rise in clever voting manipulation tactics on Hacker News because such tactics have been normalized on PH: https://twitter.com/jiyinyiyong/stat…

if you look at most product startup they all have started with shady growth tactics (stealing contacts or propagating trought fake invites to your contacts or pretending you to be on a network to lure your friends)

of course once they did it they where quick to plug the hole and denounce it as unhetical

spamming of course isn't a cost effective solution to reach people needing a product, but social network propagation trough referral still is highly effective

you can also buy targeted mailing addresses from selected companies, but the big, accurate lists are costly to come by - but those give you an incredibly focused group

Re: Places to Post Your Startup or Product

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Post by LoSboccacc » Thu, Apr 27, 2017, 6:09 AM UTC

metalmanac wrote: post #16

How many of those will actually bring in meaningful traffic? It would be nice to see a list from people who have successfully launched a product on multiple platforms and have traffic numbers to backup their suggestions.

https://sumo.com/stories/0-10k-nat-eliason?src=facebook-stor...

I found this fascinating. shows the hard work needed to capture a real audience, as opposed to paid eyeballs.

Re: Places to Post Your Startup or Product

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Post by cshenton » Thu, Apr 27, 2017, 6:18 AM UTC

welanes wrote: post #14

Quora is probably one of the better resources on that list because rather that listing your product on the shelf next to 1000 others, it allows you to discover people looking for solutions just like yours. For example, say you're building an Android weather widget (for some reason). Build a profile where you're an 'Android', 'Widget', 'Weather' expert and Quora will surface this question for you to answer* : https://…

Totally disagree from the user's perspective. Every time I try and use Quora for technical reasons, the answers are almost always people selling their product and not offering a constructive solution to the problem asked.

Sure, if the problem is unsolved then it is appropriate. But more often than not, this kind of advertising drowns out actually useful answers. Not least because their 'walk the dinosaur' narrative construction disguises that they are ads until you've read the whole thing.