Woot! This will CREATE JOBS!
Pai is disgusting.
The FCC plan to undo its net neutrality rules
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Re: The FCC plan to undo its net neutrality rules
#12Here is the EFF link [0] that provides additional information and also provides methods of contacting your local government officials to take action. Please send this along! [0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/04/fcc-wants-eliminate-ne...
This whole battle has felt like the consumers versus the ISP's. Is there economic advantages to consumers if Net Neutrality is eliminated?
They get things like the Binge On program T-Mobile did. Which was really not beneificial to consumers either, but consumers can perceive it as such - ie, T-Mobile knew they had revenues in excess of the cost of subsidizing favored video and music streaming services, so they made them not count for the data cap they put on their customers. They spin the story to be their great charity in giving away all this data, when the reality was the cost of operating their network was sufficiently low enough they could be providing unlimited bandwidth (or just substantially higher caps) while still profiting, but would rather have the best of both worlds where large media consumers use their platform for the cherry picked unlimited while still exploiting their customer base on every other network attached service they use.
Naturally, ISPs (if they care enough to do so) can spin their money grabs as giving away popular services for free (often after said services paid them off) while simultaneously limiting data or bandwidth for everything else.
Anything but the dumb pipe ethernet grid is a money grab. Hell, fixed data speeds we have now are money grabs. The reality is that there is a variable amount of bandwidth in a given network, and if ISPs were not exploitative they would guarantee a minimum speed but allow users to saturate the network as much as they can, because that is how the reality of the network operates. As it is, you get somewhere between 0 and your cap speed and are artificially throttled at the cap through anti-consumer behavior they can get away with because there is no competition in infrastructure.
Re: The FCC plan to undo its net neutrality rules
#13Here is the EFF link [0] that provides additional information and also provides methods of contacting your local government officials to take action. Please send this along! [0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/04/fcc-wants-eliminate-ne...
This whole battle has felt like the consumers versus the ISP's. Is there economic advantages to consumers if Net Neutrality is eliminated?
Sure, if you're investing in $CMCSA then this would be pretty good news for you. Otherwise...
Re: The FCC plan to undo its net neutrality rules
#14Here is the EFF link [0] that provides additional information and also provides methods of contacting your local government officials to take action. Please send this along! [0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/04/fcc-wants-eliminate-ne...
This whole battle has felt like the consumers versus the ISP's. Is there economic advantages to consumers if Net Neutrality is eliminated?
Sure - you'll get video streaming from content providers who are able to pay large sums of money without hitting against the artificial caps currently in place.
Of course, that also means it'll kill any competitors not willing or able to pay the same extortion, so in the end you'll have less choice, but at least you'll have saved money. Except you won't really save money because once the current administration allows further consolidation in the wireless sector, prices will rise with authority.
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#15> Pai argued that rolling back the rules will encourage ISPs to spend more on their broadband networks How? How on earth does letting ISPs milk more money out of their existing network incentivize those ISPs to expand that network? It's just so frustrating that these guys no longer even bother to pretend that their arguments make any logical sense at all. "We'll protect user privacy by eliminating these rules that pr…
He's just spewing bullshit to get past the decision becoming final.
Engaging on a level of logic with someone who is seeking an outcome and just says whatever they think will support their view. This is about the exercise of power.
And as has happened since Reagan, when the clownshow in office is finally shown the door, the D's get to clean up the mess, work towards fixing economy yet again, and the cycle of life is complete.
Sigh.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
This whole battle has felt like the consumers versus the ISP's. Is there economic advantages to consumers if Net Neutrality is eliminated?
"You wont have the government standing between you and your internet!" is the response I've seen around. I'd really love to see if there was any legit defense of this action though...
You also won't have to arm-wrestle a feral badger to check your email! This is yuge, because badgers don't have arms.
Don't you see what a difference this will make?
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#17How, specifically, is this helpful to the consumer or to the internet in general?
Nahh, to this point they are even too lazy to lie to cover it up. It is just simply I-can-fuck-up-so-what situation right now. Ridiculous
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#18How, specifically, is this helpful to the consumer or to the internet in general?
Why would you think a US government commission is being run in the interest of consumers or the internet in general? How much money do consumers and internet users donate to the government's election campaigns compared to the cable companies?
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#19I just setup monthly donations to the EFF (I'm ashamed I didn't do so a long time ago), and you should too. Also don't forget to check if your employer will match your donations.
Re: The FCC plan to undo its net neutrality rules
#20Here is the EFF link [0] that provides additional information and also provides methods of contacting your local government officials to take action. Please send this along! [0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/04/fcc-wants-eliminate-ne...
This whole battle has felt like the consumers versus the ISP's. Is there economic advantages to consumers if Net Neutrality is eliminated?
The major change will likely be companies relying more heavily on user bandwidth through p2p applications, p2p content delivery networks, etc.