Isn’t part of the reason for using Mailgun, Sendgrid etc that you get to send via IP addresses with good reputation?
Postal: Open source mail delivery platform, alternative to Mailgun or Sendgrid
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Re: Postal: Open source mail delivery platform, alternative to Mailgun or Sendgrid
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We really need a better solution to fighting spam. https://github.com/jimktrains/email_ng is an overly complicated idea I had once, but the basic gist is that the receiver could give the sender a signed receiver email address that is for the sender's email address. This way, transactional email (and sure, I guess marketing from your company) would be able to get through and the email given out wouldn't be able to be…
> We really need a better solution to fighting spam. I rarely receive email spam these days. The spam I get is on my voice line. I'm getting several robocalls per day. If you have the skills to work on this stuff, I'd love to see a solution to phone call spam because email spam feels solved.
we definitely need a better solution to fighting spam.
Re: Postal: Open source mail delivery platform, alternative to Mailgun or Sendgrid
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
We really need a better solution to fighting spam. https://github.com/jimktrains/email_ng is an overly complicated idea I had once, but the basic gist is that the receiver could give the sender a signed receiver email address that is for the sender's email address. This way, transactional email (and sure, I guess marketing from your company) would be able to get through and the email given out wouldn't be able to be…
> We really need a better solution to fighting spam. I rarely receive email spam these days. The spam I get is on my voice line. I'm getting several robocalls per day. If you have the skills to work on this stuff, I'd love to see a solution to phone call spam because email spam feels solved.
Re: Postal: Open source mail delivery platform, alternative to Mailgun or Sendgrid
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
We really need a better solution to fighting spam. https://github.com/jimktrains/email_ng is an overly complicated idea I had once, but the basic gist is that the receiver could give the sender a signed receiver email address that is for the sender's email address. This way, transactional email (and sure, I guess marketing from your company) would be able to get through and the email given out wouldn't be able to be…
This sounds like a cryptographic way to achieve the aliasing scheme many people already use, e.g "chatmasta+hackernews@gmail.com". Your proposal requires at least the status quo (aliased email address at signup), but the problem is it also requires cooperation of the receiver's email provider (e.g. gmail) and the sender's email provider. You are unlikely to ever see any new standard adopted by all major email provide…
Re: Postal: Open source mail delivery platform, alternative to Mailgun or Sendgrid
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We really need a better solution to fighting spam. I rarely receive email spam these days. The spam I get is on my voice line. I'm getting several robocalls per day. If you have the skills to work on this stuff, I'd love to see a solution to phone call spam because email spam feels solved.
I assume you mean rarely receive spam that ends up in your inbox. Or does your email someone not receive any spam at all?
For phone calls, somewhere between 30 and 50 percent of my calls are robocalls or other telemarketing (I receive far more emails than phone calls).
If there were an easy way to tell my phone to just drop callers if they aren't in my phone book, I would. Right now, my phone lets me know if a caller is a suspected spammer, but when I hit dismiss, it goes to voicemail. I'd rather have the call just dropped or for the caller to get a busy signal. That reminds me - I can't remember the last time I heard a busy signal.
Re: Postal: Open source mail delivery platform, alternative to Mailgun or Sendgrid
#116Isn’t part of the reason for using Mailgun, Sendgrid etc that you get to send via IP addresses with good reputation?
This is a big reason for sure. As you can see in this post, those IP addresses can be hit or miss depending on the provider. At Postmark, we don't really believe in dedicated IPs for all customers. We think that our customer base should not include any bad actors, and instead manually approve every customer to ensure our entire CIDR ranges are clean. The benefit is not just clean IPs, but clean IPs that have an incre…
Re: Postal: Open source mail delivery platform, alternative to Mailgun or Sendgrid
#117If I were to host this myself, I'd still need a static IP that had a good reputation. GCP and Azure both mention that we should not be hosting mail servers on their platforms (rather, they all suggest we setup mail servers + relays to a reputed IP). How would I go about getting a static IP or a reputed IP?
Re: Postal: Open source mail delivery platform, alternative to Mailgun or Sendgrid
#118We sent a lot of emails which makes services like Postmark or Mandrill very expensive. Since switching to Amazon SES, the cost has been much lower but the lack of individual email tracking has been a pain (in case a recipient claims they haven't received it or we need to track opens, etc). This UI with an Amazon SES backend would be ideal.
If you’re sending newsletters, you might want to look at Sendy[1] (no affiliation), which sends via SES. 1 https://sendy.co
This comparison was a very good overview of hosted options: https://www.metachris.com/2016/03/free-transactional-email-s... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11328631
And the discussion there linked this detailed sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Nb1YqYJq9eWm6ojLDRXd... | https://sendyhost.com/mandrill-alternatives-245/
Re: Postal: Open source mail delivery platform, alternative to Mailgun or Sendgrid
#119We sent a lot of emails which makes services like Postmark or Mandrill very expensive. Since switching to Amazon SES, the cost has been much lower but the lack of individual email tracking has been a pain (in case a recipient claims they haven't received it or we need to track opens, etc). This UI with an Amazon SES backend would be ideal.
If you’re sending newsletters, you might want to look at Sendy[1] (no affiliation), which sends via SES. 1 https://sendy.co
The Sendy codebase is horrifying. [...]Just lots and lots of rough PHP _vs_ This isn't software to be used for analysis. Sendy is f-in awesome!
Amazon SES rocks from a pricing standpoint but deliverability isn't its strong suit _vs_ I find no difference between SES and MailChimp regarding delivery
I would stick with Sendy, but I could never get the unsubscribe links to work _vs_ there is a version 2 of Sendy, which appears to fix all these problems
lighter version of Mailchimp and super cheap [...] Configuration is a bit painful
I have been using it for almost 1.5 years and really like it.
if you are taking all the trouble to install Sendy you should look at Mandrill (2 years go) _vs_ Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account (1 year ago) | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11170713
Also self-hosted: https://github.com/bevacqua/campaign | http://directmailmac.com ($100)
Hosted Sendy: https://www.sentopia.net/
Other/creative alternatives: http://tinyletter.com/ (5000 free) | https://domain.yandex.com/domains_add/ (500 outbound/day) | https://www.zoho.com/workplace/pricing.html
Re: Postal: Open source mail delivery platform, alternative to Mailgun or Sendgrid
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
We really need a better solution to fighting spam. https://github.com/jimktrains/email_ng is an overly complicated idea I had once, but the basic gist is that the receiver could give the sender a signed receiver email address that is for the sender's email address. This way, transactional email (and sure, I guess marketing from your company) would be able to get through and the email given out wouldn't be able to be…
> We really need a better solution to fighting spam. I rarely receive email spam these days. The spam I get is on my voice line. I'm getting several robocalls per day. If you have the skills to work on this stuff, I'd love to see a solution to phone call spam because email spam feels solved.