Man Fined $500 for Crime of Writing 'I Am an Engineer' in an Email to the Gov't

Post by JBReefer » Tue, Apr 25, 2017, 10:02 PM UTC

anigbrowl wrote: post #64

patorjk wrote: post #35

Everyone's talking about the title issue, but it's amazing that the Oregon board doesn't believe he should be able to publish or present his ideas. You can go on and on about what it means to be a certain title, but the man should be able to put forth his work and ideas.

But they don't. He's perfectly at liberty to do so, but not to assert professional standing which he lacks in order to make it seem more convincing. Did you read the Board's complaint? At first the asked the Board to investigate the city even though the Board had no jurisdiction to do so. they advised him of this and also cautioned him not to advertise himself as an engineer, in accordance with Oregon's code. He agre…

Post by anigbrowl » Tue, Apr 25, 2017, 10:04 PM UTC

exabrial wrote: post #66

Good luck extracting that money from him, if I were him, I'd safely ignore the notice. They're going to have to prove what he does for work falls under the legal definition of engineering in that state. Also, if his job title includes "engineer" the board is going to have a very difficult time justifying the case. And.... this is a civil matter. His best option is to get a good lawyer and just ignore them. Yet anothe…

Post by monochromatic » Tue, Apr 25, 2017, 10:04 PM UTC

JBReefer wrote: post #71

anigbrowl wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they don't. He's perfectly at liberty to do so, but not to assert professional standing which he lacks in order to make it seem more convincing. Did you read the Board's complaint? At first the asked the Board to investigate the city even though the Board had no jurisdiction to do so. they advised him of this and also cautioned him not to advertise himself as an engineer, in accordance with Oregon's code. He agre…

Look, you're not wrong. But you have to remember that none of that matters, because I can put the following notice out, and any government prohibition of such is a big payday for me: "I, JB Reefer, am God, command you to stop driving. I am the king of all engineers, president of space, etc etc etc" and it doesn't matter. You really do get to say whatever the fuck you want in this country, as long as it doesn't cause…

Post by cbhl » Tue, Apr 25, 2017, 10:06 PM UTC

jnbiche wrote: post #68

miiiiiike wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went through an ABET accredited software engineering program, they pointed us to the NSPE. I'm not a PE but I still call myself a software engineer on everything except government forms. As far as the government's concerned I'm a programmer.

The NCEES absolutely offers a PE exam in the US for software engineers, for about 5 years now [1]. Most states offer PE licenses now in software engineering. 1. (note the "software" in the list of exams offered) http://ncees.org/engineering/pe/

Post by nxc18 » Tue, Apr 25, 2017, 10:08 PM UTC

monochromatic wrote: post #75

JBReefer wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look, you're not wrong. But you have to remember that none of that matters, because I can put the following notice out, and any government prohibition of such is a big payday for me: "I, JB Reefer, am God, command you to stop driving. I am the king of all engineers, president of space, etc etc etc" and it doesn't matter. You really do get to say whatever the fuck you want in this country, as long as it doesn't cause…

> You really do get to say whatever the fuck you want in this country, as long as it doesn't cause direct harm to someone else The Supreme Court disagrees.