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Re: How to Become Well-Connected

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This whole thing has a huge assumption behind it: That you're someone worth being connected to. His distinction between the Hunted and the Hunters is great, but 99% of people don't fall into the "Hunted" category unless they are doing something exceptional - and even those doing something exceptional aren't typically hunted. So while I think this is a good list, and it's pretty bog standard Carnegie/How to read peopl…

> This whole thing has a huge assumption behind it: That you're someone worth being connected to.

Then make yourself worth being connected to. It doesn't have to be in a "the person who does X" way. It can be as simple as the person people want to take a coffee break with, or the person you want to go for beers with, or the person you ask to help when you move!

Re: How to Become Well-Connected

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These are good techniques for working a network but you'll need better advice than "be human" if you want to be influential. Networking is overrated. Figure out what you're good at and make sure people hear about it. The network will take care of itself.

> "be human" "The key is authenticity. If you can fake that, you can acheive anything."

From John Oliver's piece on Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner the other night:

Oliver then cited Ivanka’s 2009 book, The Trump Card: Playing to Win in Work and Life, in which she wrote: “Perception is more important than reality. If someone perceives something to be true, it is more important than if it is in fact true. This doesn’t mean you should be duplicitous or deceitful, but don’t go out of your way to correct a false assumption if it plays to your advantage.”

Re: How to Become Well-Connected

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> How to Become Well-Connected > “If you find yourself keeping score in your professional relationships, you’re on the wrong track.” Being "well connected" is an objective here, given it's lead by "how to". That intent leads to keeping score, so it's less than obvious how to resolve becoming well connected without keeping score. Not giving a shit about what others think is the SECOND step to the enlightenment. The FI…

> I no longer give a shit what anyone thinks about what I say

I don't agree. I think it's important to take into account what other people think, otherwise you're saying "I'm an ass, deal with it". However, It's important to say what you mean, even if you know the person you are speaking to doesn't agree.

Re: How to Become Well-Connected

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I consider myself reasonably outgoing, but I've always viewed "networking" as kind of slimy and insincere. At a fundamental level, population A has little to offer / little power and population B has a lot, and networking is the set of personal interactions that population A employs in order to have a shot at interacting/transacting with population B. The "hunter/hunted" relationship mentioned in this article is a ke…

>Networking is definitely a skill, I'll give you that, but it has the sincerity of a sales pitch.

I mostly agree but there are two different kinds of networking. The kind you are referring to is what I like to call "ball gargling". This is when someone is just trying to pitch how relevant they are to someone who doesn't really care so all kinds of lame sales tactics have to be used to keep interest.

Then there is networking with peers, which can be a pretty enjoyable experience. For example, meeting other researchers at an academic conference or meeting other developers at industry conferences. These connections might not provide an immediate return on investment, but they certainly seem to last longer and have proven to be immensely useful years down the road (at least anecdotally for me).

Re: How to Become Well-Connected

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best way to make an impression on someone is to ask questions about them until you find some Yes, but you have to be careful or you can make the person feel like they are being interrogated. Maybe not quite to the level of shining a bright light in their face and asking "where were you at 8:00pm on the night of January 23rd", but still, an endless stream of questions - done poorly - can make people feel uncomfort…

These examples are so lame because they are both contrived. If someone is going to answer "yes/no" to you trying to make a conversation asking if they like math, they could easily shut down the other path as well. For example: You: "So, where did you go to school?" Them: "Berkeley" You: "Nice. Why did you pick Berkeley?" Them: "It has a good academic reputation." You: "A good academic reputation for what?" Them: "CS…

It is very hard to wireframe conversation that doesn't sound contrived. We generally call people who do this well "good writers".

Re: How to Become Well-Connected

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I wish articles like this would start with "hey, i come from a place of extreme privilege, and assuming you're in the same boat, here's what i did and it worked out ok for me given the amount of resources i had to take the risks i did."

Instead, it gets treated as a sort of recipe which further exacerbates the problem of selection bias and network bias.

A lot of this type of thinking is shielded by the immense wealth and agency that the kingmakers have. But the reality is that these types of networks are fraught with horse-traders and backchannel power exchanges.

I'm not hating though, I understand the game plays out like that. But if you're not cultivating a community of real people connected to you, you'll get chewed up.

Re: How to Become Well-Connected

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post #51

This whole thing has a huge assumption behind it: That you're someone worth being connected to. His distinction between the Hunted and the Hunters is great, but 99% of people don't fall into the "Hunted" category unless they are doing something exceptional - and even those doing something exceptional aren't typically hunted. So while I think this is a good list, and it's pretty bog standard Carnegie/How to read peopl…

> This whole thing has a huge assumption behind it: That you're someone worth being connected to. Then make yourself worth being connected to. It doesn't have to be in a "the person who does X" way. It can be as simple as the person people want to take a coffee break with, or the person you want to go for beers with, or the person you ask to help when you move!

It doesn't have to be in a "the person who does X" way.

I'd disagree with this. Otherwise what good are you if you aren't "the person who does X?"

Is there someone out there who thousands of people explicitly only want to take a coffee break with? I mean I want to have a coffee break with a lot of people, but not cause they are good coffee drinkers, but because they have made significant progress in some thing I care about.

The two things you describe as the core of what people are are effectively a therapist (the person who [communicates]) and a moving company (the person who [you ask to help when moving]) respectively. Otherwise those are just regular friends...not "connections." Outside of the scope of this article.

Re: How to Become Well-Connected

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I wanted to ask an open ended question : how important do you think it is to be well-connected? I am sure if someone spent a lot of time going to plenty of networking events and put serious effort into talking with people, then they could grow their network pretty fast. But every minute spent in networking is a minute not spent in doing something else. So how do you set your priorities?

Re: How to Become Well-Connected

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I feel like this piece starts with the assumption that we should WANT to be well connected. Being that well connected, however, doesn't come without costs (in time and effort, mainly). I don't think I want to be this well connected.

Keith Ferrazzi's "Never Eat Alone" compares networks to gardens that must be actively maintained along with attendant and relevant gardening analogies (care/attention, pruning, growing, etc). I read Never Eat Alone about 10 years ago and, similar to yourself, didn't like the idea of maintaining a massive network. But many of these ideas can still be positively (not necessarily profitably) applied to your smaller soci…

>Keith Ferrazzi's "Never Eat Alone" compares networks to gardens that must be actively maintained along with attendant and relevant gardening analogies (care/attention, pruning, growing, etc).

I wonder how introversion/extroversion fits into the world of "networking theories"? I can certainly see that some people might really enjoy tending that particular garden, and in fact "connecting with people" might be their main source of enjoyment. While to others that seems like endless drudgery.

Re: How to Become Well-Connected

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There are many great points being made in the article, and in the comments - esp the comment about how this is a rehash of wisdom from Dale Carnegie.

I believe these kinds of posts need to have a corollary for introverts - folks that are shyer, more reluctant/reflective (thoughtful, perhaps), aren't great at small talk and find the prospect of starting a conversation intimidating. While I am naturally skeptical of any kind of 'people categorization' - I do think there are folks who find "networking" daunting. So, what should they do?

I think the first step is to acknowledge the importance of a good network of people that you can talk to - it is often a powerful source of diverse ideas (outside of your own bubble), mentorship, collaboration and even friendship. The reason I say this is because it is often easy to dismiss "networking" as something frivolous (it doesn't help sometimes when certain people hijack this word to mean lots of low-quality connections) or not-for-me or 'I am just happy doing my own thing' etc. I think a discussion about how networking helps us in various facets of life is important. I'd love to hear positive examples from others in this area.

The second step is to work towards a realization that most of the qualities that introverts likely possess - like "listening well" - are key to this "networking-thing". So you already possess a lot of the raw ingredients that are needed to have a good network of people.

The third step is to really value diversity - of ideas/opinions, knowledge and competence (e.g. "engineering" sometimes have reluctance in appreciating "sales"). Groups, companies, teams thrive when there is real diversity. This should make you want to talk to others who are doing different things in different domains (or same things as you, but differently)

And finally, realize that (and several folks points this out in the comments) it is not about "tricks" - i.e. don't lose your authentic self. But try to distil the "tricks" into more basic human tenets - e.g. if you are a curious individual genuinely interesting in learning more about technology (say), then "Convey genuine appreciation" isn't something you would need to fake.

The longer I work and observe other folks doing interesting things, the more I find that networking is a useful (even powerful) thing -- and I say this as an introvert and someone not proficient at networking (have a very small group of close friends). I often think "wouldn't it be cool to learn more about what this person is doing" or even "how did they do that!?", and lately (gradually) started acting on that impulse and wrote to some of those folks (that I wish to know and learn from). To my surprise, it was very rewarding. I met some very knowledgeable and interesting people -- even some that I learned from a lot. Just having a bunch of people that I can discuss different topics with - related to software, scaling, operations (or life in general!) has been rewarding.

Most of what I say here is obvious, but I just wanted to share this because I struggled (and continue to) with this whole "networking-thing". :)

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