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Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…

situations like this is what makes it really hard for others in this space to survive. I run https://clean.email (and we don't store/retain/sell any data, just charge people to use it) and the biggest issue we have is lack of trust because of news like this. although every day someone would still email with a question "why you are not free like unroll.me".. sigh.

Could you explain the limits of the free plan? Interested in trying this out but it's not clear what I'll get it and if/when I'll be forced to pay. That said, I understand the value in paying for such a service instead of selling off all my data.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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post #429

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situations like this is what makes it really hard for others in this space to survive. I run https://clean.email (and we don't store/retain/sell any data, just charge people to use it) and the biggest issue we have is lack of trust because of news like this. although every day someone would still email with a question "why you are not free like unroll.me".. sigh.

Could you explain the limits of the free plan? Interested in trying this out but it's not clear what I'll get it and if/when I'll be forced to pay. That said, I understand the value in paying for such a service instead of selling off all my data.

Free plan allows you to clean (remove, trash, label etc) 1000 emails

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Could you explain the limits of the free plan? Interested in trying this out but it's not clear what I'll get it and if/when I'll be forced to pay. That said, I understand the value in paying for such a service instead of selling off all my data.

Free plan allows you to clean (remove, trash, label etc) 1000 emails

Thanks! That sounds pretty reasonable. It would be great to have that explained somewhere on the site.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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post #512

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Free plan allows you to clean (remove, trash, label etc) 1000 emails

Thanks! That sounds pretty reasonable. It would be great to have that explained somewhere on the site.

Hmm, makes sense. I went ahead and added it under pricing. Thank you :)

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Buried lede here: "They spent much of their energy one-upping rivals like Lyft. Uber devoted teams to so-called competitive intelligence, purchasing data from an analytics service called Slice Intelligence. Using an email digest service it owns named Unroll.me, Slice collected its customers’ emailed Lyft receipts from their inboxes and sold the anonymized data to Uber. Uber used the data as a proxy for the health of…

If anyone is looking to kick unroll.me, but still has a problem w/ massive subscription piles, I wrote a quick tutorial on Medium about how to unsub from everything at once w/ their product (so you can delete it once & for all):

https://goo.gl/B4HLPX

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Thanks! That sounds pretty reasonable. It would be great to have that explained somewhere on the site.

Hmm, makes sense. I went ahead and added it under pricing. Thank you :)

Awesome :) Minor nit, the grammar you're currently missing an article. It should be "Cleaning the first 1,000 emails is free!"

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Wow I think this unroll.me thing is the real scandal here. I am an unroll.me user, but had no idea they sell user data to companies this way. Their whole value proposition is to help people control their own privacy and now I kind of feel betrayed..

I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…

With all due respect you were a consultant for 8 months at Returnpath and know nothing about why that deal didn't happen and you certainly weren't important enough there to know anything about the equity structure of the company. Returnpath is also a data company that buys companies for data collected from services provided to the user. Ask Josh Baer. That's why they bought his company.

Also spreading unfounded rumors about data storage practices you know zero about is really irresponsible.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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post #429

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…

situations like this is what makes it really hard for others in this space to survive. I run https://clean.email (and we don't store/retain/sell any data, just charge people to use it) and the biggest issue we have is lack of trust because of news like this. although every day someone would still email with a question "why you are not free like unroll.me".. sigh.

You won't survive and you clearly don't understand how this business works.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Wow I think this unroll.me thing is the real scandal here. I am an unroll.me user, but had no idea they sell user data to companies this way. Their whole value proposition is to help people control their own privacy and now I kind of feel betrayed..

I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…

AND I can tell you as a co-founder of the company this is 100% false.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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I clicked, I read your value prop, I just can't see myself paying $95+ /year for less obnoxious email in my inbox. It's really not that big of a problem to me.

ugh. I have "Yearly pricing to the homepage" sitting in my to-do list for a few weeks :) so – there's yearly pricing (and it starts with 14.99 / year (I know, this looks really weird, but it took us some time to get to this pricing). now, whether it's valuable enough to justify the price – depends a lot on how you use your email. we've got users managing 3-5 accounts with hundreds of thousands of emails each and they…

Hey, quick fix: Just make Yearly the default option when the page loads, since the yearly options are the best price. Users to your site may just scroll through without clicking anything and only see the monthly prices (like I did).
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