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Alphabet's Self-Driving Cars to Get Their First Real Riders

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I dream with the day that humans riding vehicles will be forbidden by law unless the driver would prove the need for human driving. So many deaths would be avoided.

Yeah, because computers never crash right?

I think way too many people are viewing self driving vehicles with rose colored glasses. They underestimate the cost and overestimate the utility to the public.

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post #4

How will self-driving cars affect society? Trying to wrap my head around the bigger picture.

Transportation in general will become much cheaper. Because driverless cars will get into far fewer accidents than humans the cost of insuring them will be a fraction of what it costs to insure a human driver today. And when transportation gets cheaper basically every product that needs to be moved gets cheaper (assuming the companies using this technology don't just pocket the savings).

Also, basically drivers of all kinds will no longer have jobs.

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I find it smart that Waymo waited until the snowbirds left to start this. It will be comical when the blue hairs come back next winter and smoke a few of these self-driving cars.... or vice versa. Obviously I don't want anyone to get hurt, but... it is going to happen.

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#34
post #4

How will self-driving cars affect society? Trying to wrap my head around the bigger picture.

My fear is MORE urban sprawl, which is even MORE miles of highways to pave and care for, and MORE pollution in the short term until we get very eco friendly powered electric cars. Commutes are one of the only things that seem to limit urban sprawl.

I prefer to state is as, more freedom to live where you want and how you want. still find it odd people complain about commute times by car when by rail/bus can be just as bad in many places.

while many choose to live outside of cities many are forced to because of bad city planning, regulations, and other government practices, which only served to protect vested business and political interest.

still I say though, you should be free to live where ever you want and can afford to.

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post #4

How will self-driving cars affect society? Trying to wrap my head around the bigger picture.

My fear is MORE urban sprawl, which is even MORE miles of highways to pave and care for, and MORE pollution in the short term until we get very eco friendly powered electric cars. Commutes are one of the only things that seem to limit urban sprawl.

There is an advantage to electric cars here though. If you don't need to wait while the vehicle charges electric vehicles are a lot more attractive even with relatively small batteries.

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I find it smart that Waymo waited until the snowbirds left to start this. It will be comical when the blue hairs come back next winter and smoke a few of these self-driving cars.... or vice versa. Obviously I don't want anyone to get hurt, but... it is going to happen.

Considering Waymo's vehicles drive much like stereotypical blue hairs (slooooow and cautious) I think everything will work out fine.

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post #4

How will self-driving cars affect society? Trying to wrap my head around the bigger picture.

Transportation in general will become much cheaper. Because driverless cars will get into far fewer accidents than humans the cost of insuring them will be a fraction of what it costs to insure a human driver today. And when transportation gets cheaper basically every product that needs to be moved gets cheaper (assuming the companies using this technology don't just pocket the savings). Also, basically drivers of al…

How are you so sure driverless cars will get into less accidents? Furthermore, how is this technology going to be make everything less expensive. Please explain.

For the record, I think this technology will make the prices for these vehicles prohibitively expensive for the mass market.

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#38
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That the author even uses Uber as a rival to Weymo demonstrates their lack of awareness in the industry.

Uber is a rival. That they sort of suck at functioning as a consequence of their culture doesn't change the fact that the entire bet is that they get to a dominant position in self-driving cars.

The current human-driver-driven model is a stopgap; they lose a lot of other people's money on every ride. Possible outcomes:

- Uber achieves a credible 1st-3rd place dominance in self-driving vehicles. Investors, frat boys win.

- Uber doesn't. Keeps human drivers, prices surge, Uber tanks.

- Uber doesn't. Contracts with Waymo or someone else for cars. Survives, but doesn't have much more than a crappy brand-name. Joins the ranks beside Yellow Cab.

- Uber implodes in a puff lawsuits, acrimony and skunked beer kegs. Sucks for the investors, but, eh. Uber is a cancer.

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#39
post #36

I find it smart that Waymo waited until the snowbirds left to start this. It will be comical when the blue hairs come back next winter and smoke a few of these self-driving cars.... or vice versa. Obviously I don't want anyone to get hurt, but... it is going to happen.

Considering Waymo's vehicles drive much like stereotypical blue hairs (slooooow and cautious) I think everything will work out fine.

I work on a busy fire engine in the same-ish zipcode. I can tell you that blue hairs cause a lot of accidents when they are in town. Slowwww and clueless... to be fair, there are several demographics that we suspect get into far more accidents than most others. No data however.

Re: Alphabet's Self-Driving Cars to Get Their First Real Riders

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google's approach is cautious, however has Tesla been reckless?

googles cars have gotten in a few fender benders and side swipes people have died using teslas autopilot

That also could be because autopilot is only usable on highways (IIRC) and the fatality rate per accident on highways is much higher than standard town/city driving.

Either way there's not nearly enough data to draw conclusions from.

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