Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, what terms do you see as enforceable on a private API? If I set up a server to respond to only the people I choose, what restrictions can I make on it in your perfect world?
If you set up a server to respond to only people you choose, it's on you to make sure it's only people you choose that use it. Then you can make any restrictions you want and invalidate access for anyone who goes against your rules
Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft drivers
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Re: Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft drivers
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
"The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, alleges Uber broadly invaded the privacy of the Lyft drivers, specifically violated the California Invasion of Privacy Act and Federal Wiretap Act and engaged in unfair competition"
Were the Lyft drivers personally identifiable? Or did they just find the location of anonomized drivers?
Re: Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft drivers
#43How does anyone, when asked to build such a program, not raise an objection, or say something? The ethical compromise made on behalf of all involved is startling, if this is true.
Re: Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft drivers
#44So, no one was really able to answer my question last thread. In fact, I mostly got snarky condescending replies. I've stopped caring about such things though, so hopefully good-faith questions are still welcome: What's wrong with Uber tracking Lyft drivers? What is wrong with using a competitor's API to get real-time tactical information about them? Not only did it not harm Lyft drivers, but it actually aided them:…
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#45This is terrifying and must be stopped!
Re: Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft drivers
#46IIRC the previous coverage noted that Uber was providing incentives to drivers who were using both systems, including both bonuses and steering passengers to the both-systems drivers to incentivize them to drop Lyft and only drive for Uber. The corollary of that is that there are a bunch of Uber-only drivers and former drivers who had their incomes hurt by Uber's redirection of profitable fares to 2-system drivers. THAT may be actionable, and a class action of former drivers seems like it wouldn't be that hard to put together.
Re: Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft drivers
#47So, no one was really able to answer my question last thread. In fact, I mostly got snarky condescending replies. I've stopped caring about such things though, so hopefully good-faith questions are still welcome: What's wrong with Uber tracking Lyft drivers? What is wrong with using a competitor's API to get real-time tactical information about them? Not only did it not harm Lyft drivers, but it actually aided them:…
Hard to believe this is a serious question, but the answer is that it's an invasion of privacy. "Tracking" is a polite way to put it, but if I'm reading it correctly, Uber is basically stalking them.
Just when I think Uber can't be any sleazier, they find a way.
Re: Uber gets sued over alleged ‘Hell’ program to track Lyft drivers
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe Uber should stop doing negative things then.
You think the same about United and now American? Perhaps it just that the outraged minority now have a louder voice. There is a financial benefit for them writing negative articles, outrage/scandal draws in viewers.
> You think the same about United...
Yes.
> ...and now American?
Dunno, haven't heard of it. Probably.
> Perhaps it just that the outraged minority now have a louder voice.
I don't understand the mechanism you're proposing? You're insinuating that this "minority" is today no larger than it was for...similar scandals in the past, I guess? Then why would readership for news about said scandals rise? How does loudness factor into this? Does Uber go to 11?
Anyway, you're wrong on the simplest of facts. It's not a minority: "Pollsters found generally negative attitudes toward United, with 47 percent viewing it unfavorably. Twenty-three percent see the airline favorably." (http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/aviation/329687-pol...)
> There is a financial benefit for them writing negative articles, outrage/scandal draws in viewers.
And to think that for centuries, we trusted journalists without ever noticing that they were paid (paid!) to write what they write. It's basically corruption! And now that I think of it, I can no longer trust the baker! That corrupt flour-power-wannabe is taking money to make bread!
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#50Uber can't seem to catch a break these days, can they. Can anyone explain how this is different from Google and Facebook following you around with informatics everywhere you go on the internet? The favicon trick is a pretty good example.
What's the favicon trick?