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Why are the us cops such raging douche nozzles? After every interaction I've had with a cop in the us, I left hoping they get shot soon. I've never seen cops in other countries be like this.
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I agree. But just because education is the best defense doesn't mean it should be the only defense. Guns are literally the very last resort to prevent tyranny after all other safeguards have failed.
They come with a ton of downsides... I'm European, I don't think that the benefits outweigh the downsides. If my country is at the point where there's enough popular support for a tyrannical government to take root, things are already lost. In 1989 in Romania not even our generals had the guts to shoot our own citizens, despite being drilled for it during 40 years of very oppressive Communist dictatorships. Why? Beca…
Education is effective. If education is an effective tool to combat alcohol abuse, it can be an effective tool to combat gun abuse as well.
Europe should want guns even more than America. It wasn't that long ago that Germany was blitzkrieging across borders and the citizens were defenseless. It would have never worked in America because as soon as the Germans drove over the border, millions of American civilians (not soldiers) would be pulling out their family rifles and gunning down the German soldiers from every side.
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> And why shouldn't they? This is a leading question, which is to say it's not a question that can be answered in a rational way. If one desires removal of choice in the conversation, they may answer it irrationally. > Look at the case of the murder of Laquan McDonald in Chicago. The use of a separate case of an individual having choice removed, or individuals in a group removing choice for an individual, applied to…
If these people didn't antagonize and harass the police, they'd rarely obtain any interesting footage. That says a lot. These people have an agenda. They need to show the police in the worst light possible, and they don't have time to sit around waiting for news to happen. They have to make the news.
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The news article was wrong, it wasn't a machine gun. It was a semi-automatic rifle, hardly different than the rifle that Anders Breivik used to kill scores of people in Norway. An example of actual machine guns used would be the rifles used by French citizens to kill over a hundred people in the Bataclan theater (AKMs). They also used hand grenades and high explosive (TATP) suicide belts. In the Charlie Hebdo attacks…
If you search for Ben Ledford's arrest record in Sacramento County's inmate records database ( http://www.sacsheriff.com/inmate_information/SearchNames.asp... ), one of the items he is charged under indeed is PC 32625(A) -- possession of a machine gun. So, not sure if the news article is necessarily wrong. Clearly there is some prosecutor out there who believes that what Ben Ledford possessed qualified as the definit…
But now I'm really curious to know more specific details about this firearm. Particularly if it was a legally transferable machinegun (legal federally, obviously not in California), or if it was an illegally modified semi-automatic (probably most likely) or a black market gun.
[1]: http://ktla.com/2015/12/02/mas-shooting-suspects-had-assault...
[2]: http://documents.latimes.com/lax-shooting-cell-phone-search-...
[3]: https://www.scribd.com/document/293561681/Enrique-Marquez-ch...
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And why shouldn't they? Police departments and city officials across the US routinely lie, obsfucate and remove any sense of accountability for police officers who commit crimes or make mistakes. Look at the case of the murder of Laquan McDonald in Chicago. The lying and stonewalling is a common occurrence. It's not just a few bad apples, it's a bad system that promotes escalation and grants power without accountabil…
> And why shouldn't they? This is a leading question, which is to say it's not a question that can be answered in a rational way. If one desires removal of choice in the conversation, they may answer it irrationally. > Look at the case of the murder of Laquan McDonald in Chicago. The use of a separate case of an individual having choice removed, or individuals in a group removing choice for an individual, applied to…
Cops routinely exceed their authority and misrepresent the law. I can only provide you hundreds of examples and case studies to substantiate that this group of people routinely act irrationally. Or as I would say, illegally.
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If the "fool" is obviously in the wrong, it's in the officers' best interests not to escalate the situation, or let their egos get involved, and subsequently shoot themselves in the foot. Much better to deal with it as calmly and professionally as possible. The worst thing you can do around a heckler is react. ;)
Go watch the first couple videos in the YouTube playlist in this blog post. The cop is calm and professional, despite the antagonizing behavior of the "CopChasers".
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It improves policing because now police know that they will always be watched. And any excessive force or mistake that they engage in will be trending on YouTube in under an hour. So you better be damn careful.
> And any excessive force or mistake that they engage in will be trending on YouTube in under an hour. So you better be damn careful. And what's the best outcome, huh? They get out on temporary administrative leave? Ha. Go ahead and record the police. They don't care. We on HN don't care. And you won't care after a week.
Anything worth fixing or building takes a tremendous amount of focus and time. This comment makes me sad, as it mirrors general millennial sentiments on civic engagement.
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In real life, there is only "do not shoot the firearm" and "shoot the firearm with the intent to kill". There is no practical aiming to disable or similar with a lethal firearm. There's no difference between the two, and no distinction to be drawn.
Not at all. In civilized countries, police are specifically trained to stop, not to kill. Sometimes one may imply the other, but not necessarily.
Perhaps what you meant to communicate is that weapons other than inherently lethal firearms should be deployed?
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If you search for Ben Ledford's arrest record in Sacramento County's inmate records database ( http://www.sacsheriff.com/inmate_information/SearchNames.asp... ), one of the items he is charged under indeed is PC 32625(A) -- possession of a machine gun. So, not sure if the news article is necessarily wrong. Clearly there is some prosecutor out there who believes that what Ben Ledford possessed qualified as the definit…
Huh I stand corrected. I've seen ATF agents[1], FBI agents [2], as well as US district attorneys[3] incorrectly refer to semi-automatic AR-15s as "assault rifles" (which in actual fact are subclasses of machineguns), but since they charged him with that I assume it really must be a machinegun then. But now I'm really curious to know more specific details about this firearm. Particularly if it was a legally transferab…
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How is following police unsafe for everyone involved?
Honest question: Are you serious? I can think of a number if situations in a number of jobs I have had were people following me around could have been dangerous (farm hand, concrete work etc).
