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Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

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Re: Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

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I've found most acquihire situations unfair to existing employees. It seems that those coming in from the acquihire have a higher reward/payout that talented employees already at the company can never negotiate.

Are the incoming acquihired engineers that much more worth than the ones you already have? There are certainly exceptions but by and large I can't imagine this being the case.

Re: Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

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Golden handcuffs.

That's not really the case here. Golden handcuffs refers to stock that was previously granted but either has not yet vested or has vested but the employee can't keep if they walk away from the job. While the employees in question surely own Yik-yak stock that stock is now worthless. They're starting at Square just like they would start at any other job. Thus they will stay at Square if it is a better job for them (fo…

They prob have various retention bonuses in place (either cash, square options, or both) to keep the acquired engineers at Square for x months/years.

Re: Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

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Yik Yak destroyed itself by ignoring their users and making changes that undermined the reason people used their app in the first place. They're only "struggling" because of a series of self-inflicted wounds.

They faced legal trouble for the anonymity.

I don't think that's true, could you provide a source?

Re: Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

#44

Pity, mainly because there seems to be a market for local anonymous communications, but a relatively small, and very vocal subset of users can ruin it for everyone. I wonder if some sort of anonymous reputation system could have saved them from making product decisions that were counter to the reasons for using the app in the first place.

The posts would get auto-deleted if their vote count got to -5. It was popular enough at my university that this kind of community moderation worked reasonably well, but in a lot of other locations it got abused.

Re: Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

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I think the key problem was the hype train and the lack of product-oriented/technical leadership. remembered them doing very well on campus last two years of college. They had on campus reps to hand out "schwag"; probably not very fun to scale. The obvious bullying was the problem. If they had found some way to solve that and snuck their way back into high schools... then again, kids can be so cruel.

I live in a small college town, and it's still fairly active around here. I downloaded it to see what it was all about after someone Yaked (Yiked?) a bomb threat at the college and it made the news. Most of the time it's just kids complaining about finals and being melodramatic.

Re: Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

#46
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not really the case here. Golden handcuffs refers to stock that was previously granted but either has not yet vested or has vested but the employee can't keep if they walk away from the job. While the employees in question surely own Yik-yak stock that stock is now worthless. They're starting at Square just like they would start at any other job. Thus they will stay at Square if it is a better job for them (fo…

They prob have various retention bonuses in place (either cash, square options, or both) to keep the acquired engineers at Square for x months/years.

Sure, but again, the clocks on those are starting at zero just like you might get at any new job.

Re: Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

#47

I've found most acquihire situations unfair to existing employees. It seems that those coming in from the acquihire have a higher reward/payout that talented employees already at the company can never negotiate. Are the incoming acquihired engineers that much more worth than the ones you already have? There are certainly exceptions but by and large I can't imagine this being the case.

But in the end if you look at the opportunity cost the Acquihired engineers paid brings them to the same level of compensation as others. e.g Working 2 or more years at low pay.

Re: Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

#48

I think the key problem was the hype train and the lack of product-oriented/technical leadership. remembered them doing very well on campus last two years of college. They had on campus reps to hand out "schwag"; probably not very fun to scale. The obvious bullying was the problem. If they had found some way to solve that and snuck their way back into high schools... then again, kids can be so cruel.

The issue was their entire app. The exact same reason bullying could happen was the exact reason people loved it (anonymity). Group A (parents, schools, etc) wanted complete de-masking + real-world identity while Group B (the users) wanted some anonymity with no real-world identity. Yik-Yak could've never won as far as I can see.

Could be anonymous but still keep the unique phone ID and boot/hide disruptive users. Users probably want anonymity at a far weaker guarantee than, say, Tor offers.

Re: Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

#49

I've found most acquihire situations unfair to existing employees. It seems that those coming in from the acquihire have a higher reward/payout that talented employees already at the company can never negotiate. Are the incoming acquihired engineers that much more worth than the ones you already have? There are certainly exceptions but by and large I can't imagine this being the case.

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Re: Square Said to Acquire Team from Struggling Social App Yik Yak

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Pity, mainly because there seems to be a market for local anonymous communications, but a relatively small, and very vocal subset of users can ruin it for everyone. I wonder if some sort of anonymous reputation system could have saved them from making product decisions that were counter to the reasons for using the app in the first place.

A hackernews user, `pkfrank, wrote about some of the strategies for mitigating bad posts here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7663064
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