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Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by adamnemecek »

throwaway999b wrote: post #18

There are very few details in this forum post, just some nonspecific mentions of an individual recording a police checkpoint of some kind. What type of checkpoint? Why did this person feel it necessary to record the police? Why did a confrontation start? What were the circumstances of the escalation? In general, if you interfere with the police (even if you disagree with whatever it is they're doing) you can expect s…

> save for the very worst cops (which are in the minority)

This is debatable at best.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by bbctol »

richardwhiuk wrote: post #25
adamnemecek wrote: post #11

Why are the us cops such raging douche nozzles? After every interaction I've had with a cop in the us, I left hoping they get shot soon. I've never seen cops in other countries be like this.

US police receive large amounts of hand down military equipment and are routinely armed. Some US citizens are routinely armed, so the potential for lethal harm is much greater in any scenario. US domestic policy has encouraged the police to be at war (vs crime, drugs etc). US domestic policy has encouraged a criminalization of large amounts of petty stuff (truancy / three strikes policies) which encourages this. This…

Also, a lot of cops themselves are ex-military, a consequence of maintaining decade-long wars.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#43

Post by throwaway999b »

adamnemecek wrote: post #41
throwaway999b wrote: post #18

There are very few details in this forum post, just some nonspecific mentions of an individual recording a police checkpoint of some kind. What type of checkpoint? Why did this person feel it necessary to record the police? Why did a confrontation start? What were the circumstances of the escalation? In general, if you interfere with the police (even if you disagree with whatever it is they're doing) you can expect s…

> save for the very worst cops (which are in the minority) This is debatable at best.

Try talking to some. You'll be surprised that most are actually pretty good people trying to make a difference in a very difficult job. They see nothing but the worst of humanity day in and day out.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#44

Post by swsieber »

sambull wrote: post #20
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source?

Guy videotaping from his garage. [0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/dad-im-shot-man-...

To be fair, it probably looked like a gun from a distance.

The police were in the neighborhood confronting somebody with a machine gun - not smart to take an action that looks like pointing a gun in a type of situation where one side has decided they need machine guns.

It's not to excuse the behavior of the police..., but if you're pointing something at the police from across the street, it's hard to see the profile of said object...

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#45

Post by ItendToDisagree »

adamnemecek wrote: post #41
throwaway999b wrote: post #18

There are very few details in this forum post, just some nonspecific mentions of an individual recording a police checkpoint of some kind. What type of checkpoint? Why did this person feel it necessary to record the police? Why did a confrontation start? What were the circumstances of the escalation? In general, if you interfere with the police (even if you disagree with whatever it is they're doing) you can expect s…

> save for the very worst cops (which are in the minority) This is debatable at best.

One bad apple (spoils the bunch). It is amazing how often the first part, but not the last, is applied to police officers.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by adamnemecek »

throwaway999b wrote: post #43
adamnemecek wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> save for the very worst cops (which are in the minority) This is debatable at best.

Try talking to some. You'll be surprised that most are actually pretty good people trying to make a difference in a very difficult job. They see nothing but the worst of humanity day in and day out.

I did. I definitely wouldn't use the word "good". More like improperly trained, unprofessional, aggressive, ignorant and trigger happy.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#47

Post by ajross »

dewitt wrote: post #29

Seems incredibly ill-advised to be publicly discussing what is sure to result in legal action. Even as one-sided as this is, the best he can do is incriminate himself. The other side will wait until due process requires them to disclose their case. At best he's trying to rally opinion (why?), at worst he's just seeking attention, and either way he's just making things worse on himself. As a CEO he just associated his…

Or maybe he thinks the issue is important and the imperative to discuss it outweighs personal legal risk and association of his company with "poor" decision making. (Given the content at ThinkPenguin's site, I'm not sure that the target market agrees with you about "poor", btw).

I don't know anything about this issue, to be clear. But the fact that you personally don't like to see stories about police misconduct doesn't seem like a very good reason for finger-wagging at those who experience it.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#48

Post by maxerickson »

EGreg wrote: post #39
nailer wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They may have a higher chance of getting shot themselves in the US, which pre-escalates things. Edit: as requested, my point of comparison is police in Australia and the UK.

This. The right to bear arms has consequences for everyone, even those people who do not exercise this right. If police didn't have a good statistical basis to assume a random person might be armed, they'd behave differently. That explains the main difference with Europe.

US Police don't have a good statistical basis to assume that a given encounter will require deadly force.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#49

Post by rectang »

richardwhiuk wrote: post #25
adamnemecek wrote: post #11

Why are the us cops such raging douche nozzles? After every interaction I've had with a cop in the us, I left hoping they get shot soon. I've never seen cops in other countries be like this.

US police receive large amounts of hand down military equipment and are routinely armed. Some US citizens are routinely armed, so the potential for lethal harm is much greater in any scenario. US domestic policy has encouraged the police to be at war (vs crime, drugs etc). US domestic policy has encouraged a criminalization of large amounts of petty stuff (truancy / three strikes policies) which encourages this. This…

With varying degrees depending on which part of the country you're in, police and the criminal justice system are also a means of political suppression of minorities, through uneven enforcement and felony disenfranchisement.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

#50

Post by ItendToDisagree »

swsieber wrote: post #44
sambull wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guy videotaping from his garage. [0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/dad-im-shot-man-...

To be fair, it probably looked like a gun from a distance. The police were in the neighborhood confronting somebody with a machine gun - not smart to take an action that looks like pointing a gun in a type of situation where one side has decided they need machine guns . It's not to excuse the behavior of the police..., but if you're pointing something at the police from across the street, it's hard to see the profile…

Shoot first! Ask questions later! mirite?!
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