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Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by athenot »

adamnemecek wrote: post #11

Why are the us cops such raging douche nozzles? After every interaction I've had with a cop in the us, I left hoping they get shot soon. I've never seen cops in other countries be like this.

Several factors at play:

- fear: probably because of the high likelyhood of gun ownership, the assumption is that they may get shot at anytime so they go out of their way to establish control of the situation in an overbearing way.

- poor training regarding conflict de-escalation. This is probaly due to the previous point.

- poor checks and balances. If accused of anything, there must be irrefutable proof of wrongdoing on their end or judges will always side with them. There's not much of an independent agency to ensure police compliance with the law.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by throwaway999b »

adamnemecek wrote: post #11

Why are the us cops such raging douche nozzles? After every interaction I've had with a cop in the us, I left hoping they get shot soon. I've never seen cops in other countries be like this.

Wow. So hateful. Please stay out of our country.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by _jal »

nailer wrote: post #21
adamnemecek wrote: post #11

Why are the us cops such raging douche nozzles? After every interaction I've had with a cop in the us, I left hoping they get shot soon. I've never seen cops in other countries be like this.

They may have a higher chance of getting shot themselves in the US, which pre-escalates things. Edit: as requested, my point of comparison is police in Australia and the UK.

Speculation should lead to google searches, not guessing.

I don't know what your point of comparison is, so I don't know how to respond directly. How about that being a cop is less dangerous than being a fisherman, truck driver or garbage collector[1]?

[1] http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-top-10-dangerous-jobs-c...

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by pizzetta »

sambull wrote: post #22
thesmallestcat wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where?

Sacramento County [0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/dad-im-shot-man-...

Not excusing the incident but the fuller story is a little more complicated than the police shot someone just because:

"The incident happened Thursday when Sanchez's next-door neighbor, Ben Ledford, was allegedly "firing up to 100 machine gun rounds at a home across the street, killing a dog inside the house," CBS Sacramento reported. Ledford surrendered to police, but officers fired at Sanchez after they saw him stand at the edge of his open garage and extend his hand out with an object—which turned out to be his cell phone, local NBC affiliate KCRA reported."

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by maxerickson »

nailer wrote: post #21
adamnemecek wrote: post #11

Why are the us cops such raging douche nozzles? After every interaction I've had with a cop in the us, I left hoping they get shot soon. I've never seen cops in other countries be like this.

They may have a higher chance of getting shot themselves in the US, which pre-escalates things. Edit: as requested, my point of comparison is police in Australia and the UK.

That is still largely an attention bias thing.

Lots of cops go a career without using their firearm (while on duty).

Like https://www.quora.com/On-average-how-many-times-does-a-firea...

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by nugget »

throwaway999b wrote: post #18

There are very few details in this forum post, just some nonspecific mentions of an individual recording a police checkpoint of some kind. What type of checkpoint? Why did this person feel it necessary to record the police? Why did a confrontation start? What were the circumstances of the escalation? In general, if you interfere with the police (even if you disagree with whatever it is they're doing) you can expect s…

Increasingly, if you're a police officer who interferes with a citizen who understands their Constitutionally-protected rights to film you (even if you disagree with those rights), you can expect some trouble.

Video recording of encounters with authority is the single-best hope we have to resolve the political turmoil caused by the perception (not necessarily the reality) of widespread abuse. As Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis said: "sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants".[1]

[1] http://3197d6d14b5f19f2f440-5e13d29c4c016cf96cbbfd197c579b45...

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by kcmarshall »

rdiddly wrote: post #9

So has anybody written an app for streaming video directly into cloud storage?

The ACLU has apps that will send video to their servers/cloud. It doesn't appear that the video is streamed or uploaded until the users stops recording. https://www.aclu.org/feature/aclu-apps-record-police-conduct

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by EGreg »

nailer wrote: post #21
adamnemecek wrote: post #11

Why are the us cops such raging douche nozzles? After every interaction I've had with a cop in the us, I left hoping they get shot soon. I've never seen cops in other countries be like this.

They may have a higher chance of getting shot themselves in the US, which pre-escalates things. Edit: as requested, my point of comparison is police in Australia and the UK.

This. The right to bear arms has consequences for everyone, even those people who do not exercise this right. If police didn't have a good statistical basis to assume a random person might be armed, they'd behave differently. That explains the main difference with Europe.

Re: CEO of ThinkPenguin, Inc arrested for filming police

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Post by DanBC »

throwaway999b wrote: post #18

There are very few details in this forum post, just some nonspecific mentions of an individual recording a police checkpoint of some kind. What type of checkpoint? Why did this person feel it necessary to record the police? Why did a confrontation start? What were the circumstances of the escalation? In general, if you interfere with the police (even if you disagree with whatever it is they're doing) you can expect s…

It's interesting that you say that "filming the police" is either harassment or interfering with them.

The post gives very little information about what actually happened, so I'm interested in why you made that leap.

> On the other hand, their job is to keep the community safe, and save for the very worst cops (which are in the minority), they take the job seriously. There is (and should be) a pretty high bar to harassing or interfering with the police.

US police shoot and kill very many more citizens that other police forces. Why is that?

It's not just because citizens are armed: unarmed US citizens are also far more likely to be killed than EU citizens.

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