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NASA Image Shows Earth Between the Rings of Saturn

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Re: NASA Image Shows Earth Between the Rings of Saturn

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Earth in this image has a diameter of around 5 pixels. So each pixel here is around 2500 km (as diameter of earth is around 12700 km [1]) Farthest human has been is 400,000 km [2]. So the farthest we have ever been is around 160 pixels. [1] https://www.google.co.in/search?q=diameter+of+earth&oq=diame... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight_records#Fa...

The distance from earth to the moon is 384,400 km, and in the smaller detail picture that earth to moon distance is about 23 pixels. Or about 16,700 km per pixel. And note they describe that small picture as "zoomed in", So I figure 400km is about 23 or maybe 24 pixels at most =D (or a diameter of less than 50 pixels). Waiting for someone to find an even better estimation!

You are overlooking one major thing: From the perspective of the camera, the position of the moon relative to the earth matters for the number of pixels. For example, if the moon was directly between the earth and the camera, the earth-to-moon distance in pixels would be 0, but the real distance would still be ~384.400km.

You cannot use the earth-to-moon distance, unless you also know the exact position of the camera, earth and moon in the 3D plane.

Re: NASA Image Shows Earth Between the Rings of Saturn

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Earth in this image has a diameter of around 5 pixels. So each pixel here is around 2500 km (as diameter of earth is around 12700 km [1]) Farthest human has been is 400,000 km [2]. So the farthest we have ever been is around 160 pixels. [1] https://www.google.co.in/search?q=diameter+of+earth&oq=diame... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight_records#Fa...

The distance from earth to the moon is 384,400 km, and in the smaller detail picture that earth to moon distance is about 23 pixels. Or about 16,700 km per pixel. And note they describe that small picture as "zoomed in", So I figure 400km is about 23 or maybe 24 pixels at most =D (or a diameter of less than 50 pixels). Waiting for someone to find an even better estimation!

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Re: NASA Image Shows Earth Between the Rings of Saturn

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It's a bit trippy to look at that picture, and realize that literally everything I know exists in that one little spec. It's cosmically humbling.

Humbling is good. On the other hand, I feel proud to live on the only planet we know of that has managed to take a selfie.

We have already made plenty of selfies, even before the word was a thing.

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That tiny little speck in that endless blackness is us. All of the human race living on this tiny rock fighting over who owns which piece of land and whose religion is most peaceful. All the world leaders should be spent to space to understand how insignificant we are and how petty and insignificant our disagreements are.

If we're being honest here, I don't think most world leaders are quite as blindly caught up in our significance as the majority of humanity. If anything, world leaders play the game and understand that it's all a house of cards.

Meanwhile, the people who lack personal agency moan and thrash about wondering why we're still so ignorant, even though we're in the middle of the Great Peace, prosperity on a global level is rising rapidly, and our ability to explore the stars is just beginning.

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> This image is part of a growing catalogue of "propeller" moons... Continued monitoring of these objects may lead to direct observations of the interaction between a disk of material and embedded moons. Such interactions help scientists understand fundamental principles of how solar systems formed from disks of matter. I urgently need a refresher on astronomy so I can have an intelligent discussion about space with…

My oldest is four and I feel this way about everything. They accidentally ask really tough questions constantly. There's no need to go to space for the tough stuff.

This morning: "How to people know there's grass?"

I managed to appease her with a crappy explanation of how sight works (just saying "we see it" didn't fly—we were in the car or I wouldn't have tried being so lazy) but hot damn there's a lot going on there. Like, about 1/3 of philosophy and some good chunks of physics/optics, (neuro-)biology, psychology, chemistry, et c. I'm way too dumb for this job!

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> The spacecraft captured the view on April 12, 2017

That's the anniversary of the first human spaceflight, celebrated as Yuri's Night (and also, awesomely, my birthday):

> Yuri's Night is named for the first human to launch into space, Yuri Gagarin, who flew the Vostok 1 spaceship on April 12, 1961.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri%27s_Night

Re: NASA Image Shows Earth Between the Rings of Saturn

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That tiny little speck in that endless blackness is us. All of the human race living on this tiny rock fighting over who owns which piece of land and whose religion is most peaceful. All the world leaders should be spent to space to understand how insignificant we are and how petty and insignificant our disagreements are.

This comment leaves me in a void state. There's so much emptiness.The density of our population in a metropolitan city, is insignificant when you think of it at the scale of space.

I just picture me as one of trillions of rocks going around at an extreme velocity around the Saturn ring. Each rock represents a violent pass of this galaxy. We also know there's a black hole in the center of this galaxy, let alone we have many mores across the whole galaxy. What's even more void is this universe is so big, so big, so big we can't even know what's out there. What's with this tiny dot in this universe doing? So much life so much memory so much humanity, yet, we are so tiny. Indeed, we are so insignificant.

Turn our attention back on Earth. Every step we take every air we breathe, every rock we see, has a history. Our ancestors walked on our lands, all sorts of amusing creatures once lived on this planet. What's beneath us are the remaining and the history of planet Earth. Our petroleum oil is the product of the past living organisms. Years from now, our decedents will walk on this land like we do today, wondering about their ancestors' past, what they did, how they lived, amused at our modern fashion taste and our modern technology.

Are we the only intelligent organism out there? Is there another universe? As the universe expands, what does it mean? What's actually space and time without all the mathematics? Can we even picture what it is like for the universe to stretch, like a force field / shield expanding? Could we rewind to the past like in sci-fi movies? Can you imagine what it is like to have hundreds of billions of galaxies around us? Going to M31 would probably take at least 10M years at 60mph.

As I am writing this, new stars are borning, some other stars are about to explode, some stars and planetary objects are ripping apart by black holes, galaxies are ripping each other apart as they collide crossing each other's path, our space explorers out there are watching and analyzing the space out there, and other people whom I may not know are dying on this planet Earth. Mysterious forces are every where. Most importantly, our Sun is heading to a dying state like all of us, eventually the Sun will burn out and as it burns out, the temperature will rise to the point we can't survive on this planet. Eventually we will have total darkness and total coldness here, some billion years from now. Oh, and our planet is four billions old, and this modern human civilization is only roughly 5,000 years ago and "humans" probably around 3-5M years. Our legacy our human world may collapse due to human conflicts or due to cosmetic events, and then maybe we will turn into natural resources too. M31 is approaching and billion years from now we will be in another galaxy collision event. Perhaps the cycle will repeat.

We think everything in this natural world has one order: there's a beginning and there's an end state. But this perception isn't true at all. Our chemical compositions never lost, they just become other things, over time. Some of our human ancestors think when people die they become a star and at night they will shine and look after the livings. Those who died before us are already decomposing and becoming part of everything we experience every day. It isn't far stretch to say those stars out there, trillion miles away from us, perhaps did make up of other living creatures before us, and trillion years from now, our photon, might escape and able to travel to other stars.

This is depressing.

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That tiny little speck in that endless blackness is us. All of the human race living on this tiny rock fighting over who owns which piece of land and whose religion is most peaceful. All the world leaders should be spent to space to understand how insignificant we are and how petty and insignificant our disagreements are.

This comment leaves me in a void state. There's so much emptiness.The density of our population in a metropolitan city, is insignificant when you think of it at the scale of space. I just picture me as one of trillions of rocks going around at an extreme velocity around the Saturn ring. Each rock represents a violent pass of this galaxy. We also know there's a black hole in the center of this galaxy, let alone we hav…

Yep. The universe is cosmic horror.

But hey, I've got an alright view of a really pretty tree right now!

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