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Re: Amazon's Leadership Principles

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I know a lot of companies have ancronyms, bullet points, or a list of company culture principals. What's everyone's reaction to all of this? Do you take it seriously? Pretend to? Roll your eyes? Find value in them?

It's taken very seriously and used a lot internally. I've worked elsewhere with those silly acronyms and the like. I've never worked anywhere before that practiced what it preached. It was good to see.

Re: Amazon's Leadership Principles

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I don't quite understand - what is it about financial gain that makes it incompatible with principles?

Principles is something that you keep regardless if there is money on the table. If money plays any role in the decision process - it's called a contract.

Amazon doesn't have definitive proof that following these overall guidelines will make the company successful, but they have been following them to help with decision making and they've also made a lot of money.

To quote a movie: 'the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules'

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Some of these are contradictory - in addition, some of these aren't really even leadership principles of much merit outside the company they're created for. Here is an example of a proven set of leadership principles that is a worthwhile read: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usmc/leadership.htm . Someone who can embody all of these principles that the Marine Corps espouses is someone I can respect immensely regar…

They contradict each other on purpose. They tend to act as a balancing function. That said, ya, I don't think they were meant for anything else but Amazon.

I'm reminded of the fox/hedgehog delineation. Very clearly, tech values would be a fox and USMC values would be a hedgehog.

However at the same time, I am reading your argument and thinking, having a bunch of random contradicting guidelines and hoping that the law of averages smooths out the error inherent, can't be better than a more thoughtful list of consistent, higher-level principles.

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I interned there last year. They really want to get this point across. Like, I had to sit through an entire day of orientation repeatedly telling me this in different ways. We even had "fun" games to re-inforce the principles lol. I was going to be there for a maximum of 2 months, but nope. But hey, the tech was really cool. My team was amazing, we went on multiple team outings during my short stay. Office hours were…

The principle "force-feeding” is to benefit the company, not you.

Re: Amazon's Leadership Principles

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Some of these are contradictory - in addition, some of these aren't really even leadership principles of much merit outside the company they're created for. Here is an example of a proven set of leadership principles that is a worthwhile read: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usmc/leadership.htm . Someone who can embody all of these principles that the Marine Corps espouses is someone I can respect immensely regar…

>> Ensure the task is understood, supervised, and accomplished This might be a good idea for running a military unit but fails miserably in IT. As a leader I hardly ever supervise my engineers, they have to understand the tasks and only come to me if there something that they do not understand. Giving them as much freedom as possible is one reason they like to work with us, feedback we got from 90% of them. Sometimes…

Sounds a lot like the "decentralized command" leadership principle.

https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Ownership-U-S-Navy-SEALs/dp/1...

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The emphasis on "customer obsession" is clearly working, since it has topped the polls for best corporate reputation two years in a row. http://www.geekwire.com/2017/amazon-tops-harris-poll-corpora... I work for Amazon, and I personally am a huge fan of the "LPs" . I consistently find myself mentally consulting them when I'm not sure what to do in a particular situation. I also think it really helps to work in an env…

How could that be? I stopped buying from Amazon after reading about how they treat their warehouse employees. To me, Amazon just represents monopolistic corporate greed, with no aspiration of caring even just a little bit about anything else.

Most people don't blacklist corporations for bad behavior.

Re: Amazon's Leadership Principles

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Some of these are contradictory - in addition, some of these aren't really even leadership principles of much merit outside the company they're created for. Here is an example of a proven set of leadership principles that is a worthwhile read: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usmc/leadership.htm . Someone who can embody all of these principles that the Marine Corps espouses is someone I can respect immensely regar…

I was introduced to these at USMC Officer Candidate School and agree wholeheartedly; these principles are effective and I have tried to live into them (as appropriate) as I've taken on manager/director roles in my career.

Amazon recently reached out to me to attend a giant recruiting event and included a link to these principles, and the "Are Right, A Lot" line item turned me off completely. There's something about stating that as a guiding principle that runs counter to my instincts and experience.

I'm as smart and as "right" as anyone on my team, but as a headline that rubbed me the wrong way. The finer print "...seek diverse perspectives and work to disconfirm their beliefs" sounds better, but confirming my beliefs along with every else's has worked pretty well so far.

For what it's worth, I was probably looking for an excuse to back off anyways. I have a great job where I am.

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Also because dehydration and injuries are a problem in fulfillment centers, especially during high volume or high heat.

Why should dehydration be an acceptable problem ? i can understand heat and not using air-conditioning, but even soldiers in hot countries manage to stay hydrated.

Because people often don't realize how much water they need.

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Also because dehydration and injuries are a problem in fulfillment centers, especially during high volume or high heat.

Why should dehydration be an acceptable problem ? i can understand heat and not using air-conditioning, but even soldiers in hot countries manage to stay hydrated.

Soldiers die all the time during training exercises, let alone actual deployment. Dehydration is definitely a cause: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2362942/Soldiers-mar...

Re: Amazon's Leadership Principles

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Some of these are contradictory - in addition, some of these aren't really even leadership principles of much merit outside the company they're created for. Here is an example of a proven set of leadership principles that is a worthwhile read: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usmc/leadership.htm . Someone who can embody all of these principles that the Marine Corps espouses is someone I can respect immensely regar…

I was introduced to these at USMC Officer Candidate School and agree wholeheartedly; these principles are effective and I have tried to live into them (as appropriate) as I've taken on manager/director roles in my career. Amazon recently reached out to me to attend a giant recruiting event and included a link to these principles, and the "Are Right, A Lot" line item turned me off completely. There's something about s…

You should check it out and see. The implicit precursor to "right, alot" is that you're trying things that might be wrong. Don't just try things for kicks, have some intention that they'll most likely turn out right (presuming there's a cost).

This doesn't apply to an AB test where you don't care what's right, you're just putting it out there and letting the users decide. What's 'right' there is the AB test itself and doing it.

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