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Re: Amazon's Leadership Principles

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Some of these are contradictory - in addition, some of these aren't really even leadership principles of much merit outside the company they're created for. Here is an example of a proven set of leadership principles that is a worthwhile read: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usmc/leadership.htm . Someone who can embody all of these principles that the Marine Corps espouses is someone I can respect immensely regar…

Thanks for the link. I agree with you. Respect due.

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Amazon tries to push Leadership Principles into every part of at least their corporate world. It's supposed to drive decision making for basically everyone, brand new engineers on up (I don't know if they push them lower down the stack). What I'm getting at is it's not solely for "leaders" as in high level folks. > live a life never caring about money (> 200k a year) I'm in my 3rd year as an engineer here (and of my…

Thanks for the data point. I'm looking at openings in Canada and the only numbers I've found during a cursory search were 'Salary Range: $80,000 to $140,000/yr, commensurate with experience' for a 'Research Scientist II' position.

Ah, my mistake for assuming that you're a software developer (or at least one that would fall into a typical SDE role). Bad habit.

I have confidence that we're nowhere near the ceiling for AMZN, if that says anything.

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Having worked in AWS Data Centres in Australia and India, I'm curious to know why you think the average DC technician leaves after 9 months? Gotta love a work-life balance that forces you to work weekends and public holidays! The culture _IS_ the issue at Amazon - you either learn to put up with the BS metrics your managers push down your throat or you leave for somewhere that treats you like a human being.

Having worked in AWS DCO- there's a lot of factors. You were under a shit manager. APAC Regions manager is inept. Dublin was also filled with fucking idiots. DCO's upper management in general is a fuckfest of people who want to play big man but have no idea what metrics ARE. They have no basic grasp of math nor do they know how to find what they need. I'd be shocked if they could tell you what an average value is fro…

if this is real i see they will have issues in future they charge very well for the service they provide so i assume they should have good engineers stick to them for long term growth.

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am amzn shopper. for a data driven company these 10 commandments are a priori? are the results of decades clinical research? is there an extensive bibliogrpahy? peer review? or is this newspeak? can't amzn do better? a ted talk has more data. thats my backbone. i disagree and i am committed to emoticons. :)

Re: Amazon's Leadership Principles

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Some of these are contradictory - in addition, some of these aren't really even leadership principles of much merit outside the company they're created for. Here is an example of a proven set of leadership principles that is a worthwhile read: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usmc/leadership.htm . Someone who can embody all of these principles that the Marine Corps espouses is someone I can respect immensely regar…

They contradict each other on purpose. They tend to act as a balancing function.

That said, ya, I don't think they were meant for anything else but Amazon.

Re: Amazon's Leadership Principles

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Some of these are contradictory - in addition, some of these aren't really even leadership principles of much merit outside the company they're created for. Here is an example of a proven set of leadership principles that is a worthwhile read: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usmc/leadership.htm . Someone who can embody all of these principles that the Marine Corps espouses is someone I can respect immensely regar…

I used to work at Amazon, and I liked their leadership principles.

They're intentionally contradictory, but that's just an acknowledgement that perfection is impossible. When you choose to focus on one aspect of your career, that's often going to be at the detriment of something else. This also means that there's always room for career development and self-improvement.

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Some of these are contradictory - in addition, some of these aren't really even leadership principles of much merit outside the company they're created for. Here is an example of a proven set of leadership principles that is a worthwhile read: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usmc/leadership.htm . Someone who can embody all of these principles that the Marine Corps espouses is someone I can respect immensely regar…

I used to work at Amazon, and I liked their leadership principles. They're intentionally contradictory, but that's just an acknowledgement that perfection is impossible. When you choose to focus on one aspect of your career, that's often going to be at the detriment of something else. This also means that there's always room for career development and self-improvement.

They forgot take advantage of the low self esteem of your potential employees.

Re: Amazon's Leadership Principles

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The emphasis on "customer obsession" is clearly working, since it has topped the polls for best corporate reputation two years in a row. http://www.geekwire.com/2017/amazon-tops-harris-poll-corpora... I work for Amazon, and I personally am a huge fan of the "LPs" . I consistently find myself mentally consulting them when I'm not sure what to do in a particular situation. I also think it really helps to work in an env…

How could that be? I stopped buying from Amazon after reading about how they treat their warehouse employees. To me, Amazon just represents monopolistic corporate greed, with no aspiration of caring even just a little bit about anything else.

I don't get it either. Probably the last 4 or so things I've purchased on Amazon have not actually been shipped to me. I hate using it and try hard to avoid it these days.

Re: Amazon's Leadership Principles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having worked in AWS Data Centres in Australia and India, I'm curious to know why you think the average DC technician leaves after 9 months? Gotta love a work-life balance that forces you to work weekends and public holidays! The culture _IS_ the issue at Amazon - you either learn to put up with the BS metrics your managers push down your throat or you leave for somewhere that treats you like a human being.

I'm being a touch quarrelsome, but wouldn't a data center job often inherently require working on weekends and holidays? Curious here about the nature of data center jobs in general and in what specific ways Amazon would be worse than normal (if any).

Yes most datacenter work (in general) is 24/7 three shifts with maybe weekends on call and holidays. Depends really on what country you're in, probably France is better because it has laws favouring the employee and a 35 hour work week.
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