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Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by kkyryl »

rubicon33 wrote: post #430
karlkatzke wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…

There is a phrase which I live by - If it's free, you're the product.

I wish more people thought like that. with everything being free it's really hard to actually charge people for something.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by qzervaas »

rubicon33 wrote: post #430
karlkatzke wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…

There is a phrase which I live by - If it's free, you're the product.

That's all well and good - and many people realise and accept this - but the degree to which you're the product can clearly vary wildly. That's the real issue.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by Tanegashima »

rubicon33 wrote: post #430
karlkatzke wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…

There is a phrase which I live by - If it's free, you're the product.

Well, this site is free...what's the catch?

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by ThrustVectoring »

Tanegashima wrote: post #433
rubicon33 wrote: post #430

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a phrase which I live by - If it's free, you're the product.

Well, this site is free...what's the catch?

This is clearly and explicitly content marketing that attempts to fill YCombinator's venture capital deal funnel.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by idlewords »

valuearb wrote: post #347
idlewords wrote: post #213

The buried lede here is that Apple did nothing to protect users from a company that openly and willfully strip-mined their privacy in violation of App Store rules.

I guess you didn't understand the buried lede then. Apple forced them to stop. The offense was extremely minor and didn't hurt anyones privacy (unless you view iPhones as persons).

Apple caught them taking active countermeasures to hide their activity from Apple engineers. They caught Uber doing one thing; the question they should have asked is, what else is Uber doing that they still get away with?

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by kkyryl »

kkyryl wrote: post #429
karlkatzke wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for a company that nearly acquired unroll.me. At the time, which was over three years ago, they had kept a copy of every single email of yours that you sent or received while a part of their service. Those emails were kept in a series of poorly secured S3 buckets. A large part of Slice buying unroll.me was for access to those email archives. Specifically, they wanted to look for keyword trends and for receip…

situations like this is what makes it really hard for others in this space to survive. I run https://clean.email (and we don't store/retain/sell any data, just charge people to use it) and the biggest issue we have is lack of trust because of news like this. although every day someone would still email with a question "why you are not free like unroll.me".. sigh.

it's kinda funny how ~50 people who came from this thread to our service illustrated the point of the lack trust – not a single person registered :)

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by CamelCaseName »

kkyryl wrote: post #437
kkyryl wrote: post #429

Earlier quoted context omitted.

situations like this is what makes it really hard for others in this space to survive. I run https://clean.email (and we don't store/retain/sell any data, just charge people to use it) and the biggest issue we have is lack of trust because of news like this. although every day someone would still email with a question "why you are not free like unroll.me".. sigh.

it's kinda funny how ~50 people who came from this thread to our service illustrated the point of the lack trust – not a single person registered :)

I don't see how that indicates a lack of trust. People may not be in the mood to change, or need to do more research before they do, especially since it is very late in the evening for the Western world.

Also, it's only been 30 minutes since your first post, and 50 is a small sample size.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by beedogs »

aceperry wrote: post #289
smokeyj wrote: post #221

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But how do you judge uber if you can't trust journalistic integrity? The very people you trust to think for you are unqualified - which leads me to believe so is your opinion. This seems to be the problem with Fake News.

Is there a specific journalistic integrity issue going on with this article?

Nope. He's just being a contrarian clown.
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