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Sheep are not stupid, and they are not helpless either

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Re: Sheep are not stupid, and they are not helpless either

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From the article you linked: > While these barriers are usually effective for cattle,[23] they can fail due to ingenious animals. Sheep searching for food have been known to roll over grids, jump across them, step carefully into the spaces[24] or run along the side of grids as wide as 8 feet (2.4 m). [24] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rIbZWblPaA

The very next video youtube suggested shows two sheep, surrounded by lush green fields, climbing onto steep, wet rocks on a hillside in an attempt to reach some grass in the middle of the rocks. One of the sheep falls, presumably to its death or at least to a significant injury. They may be clever, but they seem... dumb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m2HJpGtv70

That seems like human explorers. Some rech their goal and a lot of them die. I wouldn't call this dumb.

Re: Sheep are not stupid, and they are not helpless either

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They may not lack intelligence but they are not fun. They are boring. They keep to themselves. They are very "sheepish". They are not emotional, except horny rams. They don't socialize with humans. They are scared of everything. They are herdish and their herd makes dumb decisions. Very few of them are outliers in behavior/intelligence. I grew up with sheep. I 'm sorry sheep, you are dumb.

goats are way more entertaining. i grew up working on a farm that had about 20 head of sheep, 20 nubian goats for milk, and a handful of pygmies for meat. Goats are fascinating. Sheep largely keep to themselves.

> and a handful of pygmies for meat.

Is cannibalism legal where you are?

Re: Sheep are not stupid, and they are not helpless either

#44

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goats are way more entertaining. i grew up working on a farm that had about 20 head of sheep, 20 nubian goats for milk, and a handful of pygmies for meat. Goats are fascinating. Sheep largely keep to themselves.

> and a handful of pygmies for meat. Is cannibalism legal where you are?

Pygmy is also a type of goat.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_goat

Re: Sheep are not stupid, and they are not helpless either

#45
They are horribly dumb, especially compared to other farm animals like cows or pigs.

I worked in a farm as a teenager. Getting sheep out of trouble was a secondary duty.

Highlights:

- One managed to hang itself from a large garbage can full of grain when a kid left it open. It literally jumped up to try and get in, and got stuck on rim.

- Remember the Disney "chip and dale" episode where they borrowed Donald Duck's sailboat to get nuts from a tree on a little island? 3 sheep tried to do that without a boat and drowned.

- Another somehow impaled itself on farm machinery in the middle of a 10 acre field. No idea why.

Re: Sheep are not stupid, and they are not helpless either

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article you linked: > While these barriers are usually effective for cattle,[23] they can fail due to ingenious animals. Sheep searching for food have been known to roll over grids, jump across them, step carefully into the spaces[24] or run along the side of grids as wide as 8 feet (2.4 m). [24] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rIbZWblPaA

The very next video youtube suggested shows two sheep, surrounded by lush green fields, climbing onto steep, wet rocks on a hillside in an attempt to reach some grass in the middle of the rocks. One of the sheep falls, presumably to its death or at least to a significant injury. They may be clever, but they seem... dumb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m2HJpGtv70

This is the missing link to goats

Re: Sheep are not stupid, and they are not helpless either

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article you linked: > While these barriers are usually effective for cattle,[23] they can fail due to ingenious animals. Sheep searching for food have been known to roll over grids, jump across them, step carefully into the spaces[24] or run along the side of grids as wide as 8 feet (2.4 m). [24] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rIbZWblPaA

The very next video youtube suggested shows two sheep, surrounded by lush green fields, climbing onto steep, wet rocks on a hillside in an attempt to reach some grass in the middle of the rocks. One of the sheep falls, presumably to its death or at least to a significant injury. They may be clever, but they seem... dumb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m2HJpGtv70

> One of the sheep falls, presumably to its death or at least to a significant injury. They may be clever, but they seem... dumb.

Nope. What it looks like is that the lamb fell, but was alive in the end. The mother chased down the hillside, and found it without injury.

I was surprised as well, but it looks like sheep can survive little tumbles like that.

Re: Sheep are not stupid, and they are not helpless either

#48
post #39

May experience is that the sheep most farmers have are quite stupid. I have grown up owning huskies and taken said huskies on trips on mountains where sheep roam free. I have been struggling to hold back a husky literally meters away from sheep before. They will just look stupidly at the lethal predator and make no attempt to get away. They have been bred to be easier to handle (aka dumb) and would likely have been e…

stoic in the face of aggression

like surface of zen mind

no error

Re: Sheep are not stupid, and they are not helpless either

#49

Twenty plus years ago I was hiking on the North York Moors in England, which is an area where herds of sheep live wild on the moorland for most of the year. I came to a cattle grid (cattle guard in the US [1]) and a group of sheep were crowded at one side, obviously wanting to cross but unable to do so. Lots of baaaing and jostling. Then one of the sheep did an amazing thing: it lay down and rolled it's body over the…

From the article you linked: > While these barriers are usually effective for cattle,[23] they can fail due to ingenious animals. Sheep searching for food have been known to roll over grids, jump across them, step carefully into the spaces[24] or run along the side of grids as wide as 8 feet (2.4 m). [24] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rIbZWblPaA

Thanks. I only included the wikipedia link for clarity due to the different terminology used across the world. But its interesting to know that what I saw is not as unusual as I thought.

Re: Sheep are not stupid, and they are not helpless either

#50

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Classic HN here that no matter how obscure the topic, we have posts from 3 different people with real world experience.

I'm not sure that sheep-farming is particularly obscure.

I imagine it is among IT people, who are the prime audience for HN.
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