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Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by zorbadgreek »

mikeash wrote: post #61
cm2187 wrote: post #31

One annoying thing with the Uber app is that they disabled the option to give access to location only when the app is running. The only option available in the iOS privacy setting is always or never for access to location (unlike other apps).

I can't understand why Apple allows this.

Many apps request "always" level of location tracking. Apple allows you to opt-out of location tracking for any app. Granted, this renders Uber a bit harder to use as you have to enter a pickup address, but you can still use the app.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by user5994461 »

greenyoda wrote: post #232
scarface74 wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would a banking app need to use device fingerprinting?

Perhaps to identify a device from which a fraudulent transaction occurred in the past?

Because you don't want any phone in the world to be allowed to access any bank account in the world by just giving a name and password.

Fingerprinting is a form of 2 factor authentication, it's easy to perform and it's relatively efficient against fraud.

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by sctb »

mee_too wrote: post #177
rhino369 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. The idea that the taxis are corrupt and despicable is 100% Uber/Lyft propaganda. The idea that a bunch of immigrants driving 12 hours a day to support a meager income for their families are a cabal of special interests is ridiculous. Uber and Lyft are better than taxis because of the on demand nature and they are cheaper because of better utilization. B…

F*ck the taxis! Immigrants are NOT angels and are more likely to engage in illegal activity.

Please don't violate the guidelines like this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by mahyarm »

maxerickson wrote: post #24

It'd be nice if Apple had been less pragmatic and more principled and just yanked any version of the Uber app that broke the rules.

Yanking large popular apps is a two way street for a platform. They hurt themselves, possibly even more if they do it enough.

A good amount of people would stop using / buying iphones if their device stopped using facebook, uber, or some other central app in their lives. It would also disuade a bunch more customers from buying from that platform again, because they don't know what else would be yanked from them.

Platforms live and die on what they can provide, if one platform is missing a bunch of central apps, it's not going to succeed as one.

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Post by mikeash »

zorbadgreek wrote: post #251
mikeash wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't understand why Apple allows this.

Many apps request "always" level of location tracking. Apple allows you to opt-out of location tracking for any app. Granted, this renders Uber a bit harder to use as you have to enter a pickup address, but you can still use the app.

I'm not sure how this addresses my comment. Apple should always allow the user to choose "only while using the app."

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by sctb »

lutusp wrote: post #16

Quote: "In a quest to build Uber into the world’s dominant ride-hailing entity, Mr. Kalanick has openly disregarded many rules and norms, backing down only when caught or cornered. He has flouted transportation and safety regulations, bucked against entrenched competitors and capitalized on legal loopholes and gray areas to gain a business advantage." This is classic malignant narcissism[1]. The irony of the story is…

This type of unsubstantive, inflammatory comment has a wholly predictable and undesirable effect on these threads. Please don't post like this here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire

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Post by maxerickson »

mahyarm wrote: post #255
maxerickson wrote: post #24

It'd be nice if Apple had been less pragmatic and more principled and just yanked any version of the Uber app that broke the rules.

Yanking large popular apps is a two way street for a platform. They hurt themselves, possibly even more if they do it enough. A good amount of people would stop using / buying iphones if their device stopped using facebook, uber, or some other central app in their lives. It would also disuade a bunch more customers from buying from that platform again, because they don't know what else would be yanked from them. Plat…

I didn't claim it would be beneficial to Apple to yank the apps, I said it would have been more principled than what they did.
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