> Uber considered Lyft and McDonald’s its main competition for attracting new drivers. can somebody explain this?
If you have low income and need a job now there are three easy options. Uber, Lyft, and McDonalds.
Uber CEO Plays with Fire
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#82I really hope Lyft doesn't do anything to screw up, as I've uninstalled Uber and will probably never use the service again. However, I don't see myself going back to regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. I just hope Lyft plays the game with a social conscious and makes positive decisions and continues to treat drivers well (most Lyft drivers I talk to say they like driving for Lyft way bette…
>regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. The idea that the taxis are corrupt and despicable is 100% Uber/Lyft propaganda. The idea that a bunch of immigrants driving 12 hours a day to support a meager income for their families are a cabal of special interests is ridiculous. Uber and Lyft are better than taxis because of the on demand nature and they are cheaper because of better utilization. B…
they're cheaper because they can subsidize their fares via VC money
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#83No one seems to explain how Uber could track user when the have deleted the app ? It look more like an hack more than "a lack of boundaries" to me...
In this case, by tracking, it means the device's unique identity via fingerprinting. It does not mean location tracking or other similar information. So if multiple accounts are created on the same device (deleting the app in between) it would indicate that those accounts are fraudulent accounts. The issue with location tracking even when the Uber app is not running is a different issue.
In my opinion Apple should have suspended their app from the iTunes App Store until they fixed the app. Because isn't that what they do to other small players? I would say there is a bit of hypocrisy on Apple's part here.
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#84I've thought the guy is slimy scum for some time, but that article made something click. One consistent feature of Kalanick's tactics appears to be a proclivity for gaslighting on an industrial scale - geofencing Apple, regulators, etc. Among (many) other things, I would never trust any data sourced solely to anything under his control.
In American culture, gaslighting is a valued leadership quality. You get things done by making people think you're in control of the situation. See, for instance, Mike Pence's behavior during the VP debate, saying with a straight face that certain things never happened that did happen (it's a very different experience watching it once you understand that gaslighting is a thing that exists), or Hillary Clinton talking…
Is talking about an achievable political goal instead of whatever you think would be ideal really the same sort of thing as gaslighting?
Re: Uber CEO Plays with Fire
#85I really hope Lyft doesn't do anything to screw up, as I've uninstalled Uber and will probably never use the service again. However, I don't see myself going back to regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. I just hope Lyft plays the game with a social conscious and makes positive decisions and continues to treat drivers well (most Lyft drivers I talk to say they like driving for Lyft way bette…
>regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. The idea that the taxis are corrupt and despicable is 100% Uber/Lyft propaganda. The idea that a bunch of immigrants driving 12 hours a day to support a meager income for their families are a cabal of special interests is ridiculous. Uber and Lyft are better than taxis because of the on demand nature and they are cheaper because of better utilization. B…
The taxi system seems more negative to immigrants as it cuts off the number of opportunities for making a living in a low skill market. It's not that the taxi drivers are "negative", it's the system they inhabit and defend. If it supports any immigrants, it's because they already got into the limited-slot
system, while the vast bulk of immigrants are outside.
And on the consumer side, consumers are afraid of being cheated, they deal with more payment uncertainty, and the prices are inflated.
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#86> Uber considered Lyft and McDonald’s its main competition for attracting new drivers. can somebody explain this?
Uber is a low-wage job that is extremely easy to get (no interview required) and has very few skills as a prerequisite.
McDonalds fits those criteria as well.
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#87I really hope Lyft doesn't do anything to screw up, as I've uninstalled Uber and will probably never use the service again. However, I don't see myself going back to regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. I just hope Lyft plays the game with a social conscious and makes positive decisions and continues to treat drivers well (most Lyft drivers I talk to say they like driving for Lyft way bette…
>regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. The idea that the taxis are corrupt and despicable is 100% Uber/Lyft propaganda. The idea that a bunch of immigrants driving 12 hours a day to support a meager income for their families are a cabal of special interests is ridiculous. Uber and Lyft are better than taxis because of the on demand nature and they are cheaper because of better utilization. B…
I don't think anyone's claiming all taxi drivers are corrupt any more than they're saying that about Uber. Complaints I've heard are all about the medallion structure, pressure from taxi groups to block new car services, and comparatively inconsistent/crappy service.
And the taxi drivers can't get out of a crappy taxi company and start their own because of the expensive taxi medallions, so they're stuck with it as much as we are.
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#88I really hope Lyft doesn't do anything to screw up, as I've uninstalled Uber and will probably never use the service again. However, I don't see myself going back to regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. I just hope Lyft plays the game with a social conscious and makes positive decisions and continues to treat drivers well (most Lyft drivers I talk to say they like driving for Lyft way bette…
>regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. The idea that the taxis are corrupt and despicable is 100% Uber/Lyft propaganda. The idea that a bunch of immigrants driving 12 hours a day to support a meager income for their families are a cabal of special interests is ridiculous. Uber and Lyft are better than taxis because of the on demand nature and they are cheaper because of better utilization. B…
I've never seen anyone argue that taxi drivers are evil. The argument is that taxi companies are yet another example of companies that have co-opted the legal system to further their business. For example, you're not allowed to operate a taxi service. Nor are you allowed to give someone a ride for money.
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#89I'm off uber after a BS "5 minute" issue. I've been using it for years, they literally had to burn so much goodwill to get me to stop using them, it's almost impressive.
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#90I really hope Lyft doesn't do anything to screw up, as I've uninstalled Uber and will probably never use the service again. However, I don't see myself going back to regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. I just hope Lyft plays the game with a social conscious and makes positive decisions and continues to treat drivers well (most Lyft drivers I talk to say they like driving for Lyft way bette…
>regular taxi system as that's even more corrupt and despicable. The idea that the taxis are corrupt and despicable is 100% Uber/Lyft propaganda. The idea that a bunch of immigrants driving 12 hours a day to support a meager income for their families are a cabal of special interests is ridiculous. Uber and Lyft are better than taxis because of the on demand nature and they are cheaper because of better utilization. B…
I don't hate taxi drivers. I hate taxi companies. Same with Uber.
You can ignore that distinction, but you're just going to be arguing against a straw man, which might feel satisfying, but will get you nowhere.