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Copyright: The Elephant in the Middle of the Glee Club

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Re: Copyright: The Elephant in the Middle of the Glee Club

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The point of the article you didn't read isn't that Glee isn't paying royalties, but that they perpetrate this idea that high schools can afford the royalty rates commanded for performances of the works that the fictional schools in Glee do.

Re: Copyright: The Elephant in the Middle of the Glee Club

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Ehm, I think most schools have agreements with ASCAP and BMI that cover this scenario... perhaps through something like this: http://www.ascap.com/licensing/pdfs/imla_rate_schedule.pdf

The article talks only about recordings and mashups. The former aren't covered by such an agreement, and it's not clear if the latter are.

Re: Copyright: The Elephant in the Middle of the Glee Club

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A strong break needs to be made between the reality of life and that of television shows.

In the reality of Glee the RIAA may not exist, copyright laws could be drastically different. Given that a sixteen year old looks and sounds like he is in his mid-twenties this is entirely conceivable. We would also all have amazing hair and teeth.

If we pull this into our reality, then I would believe that the production company Fox owns the rights to the songs being sung, or has enough influence over the owning bodies to use them without concern.

For actual high school performances and their rights, I will reference jbarciauskas's comment.

Re: Copyright: The Elephant in the Middle of the Glee Club

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Ehm, I think most schools have agreements with ASCAP and BMI that cover this scenario... perhaps through something like this: http://www.ascap.com/licensing/pdfs/imla_rate_schedule.pdf

The article talks only about recordings and mashups. The former aren't covered by such an agreement, and it's not clear if the latter are.

Huh? It's talking about glee clubs, and in particular the glee club on Glee, who mostly do live performances. The article begins, "For a show that regularly tackles thorny issues like teen pregnancy and alcohol abuse, it’s surprising that a million dollars worth of lawbreaking would go unmentioned." But this premise seems to be faulty - there's no indication that there is a million dollars worth of law-breaking involved in performing songs live as part of a glee club which is most likely covered by the absurdly cheap school/town ASCAP, BMI etc license.

Certainly I haven't heard of them talking about releasing a recording on Glee, although I missed a couple episodes...

EDIT: I see that the article discusses in particular the videos that were created which would constitute "recordings". On the mashup issue, presumably they aren't actually recording mashups but writing them to be performed live - these aren't lip syncing groups, and most glee clubs probably don't make videos either so it seems fairly moot.

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