Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

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Post by liuw » Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 5:45 PM UTC

Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate
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Re: Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

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Post by gareim » Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 6:02 PM UTC

I never understand when OSS projects give themselves names that will never go mainstream. If the goal is semi-popularity at least, then "Devuan" will not work.

Re: Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

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Post by helb » Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 6:05 PM UTC

"Devuan Jessie 1.0 RC" on HN yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14167447

For those who forgot what Devuan was, like i did – basically a Debian fork without systemd.

Re: Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

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Post by copperx » Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 6:06 PM UTC

gareim wrote: post #2

I never understand when OSS projects give themselves names that will never go mainstream. If the goal is semi-popularity at least, then "Devuan" will not work.

Is it hard to pronounce? Worse than Debian?

Re: Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

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Post by icebraining » Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 6:09 PM UTC

gareim wrote: post #2

I never understand when OSS projects give themselves names that will never go mainstream. If the goal is semi-popularity at least, then "Devuan" will not work.

Why not?

Re: Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

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Post by e12e » Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 6:09 PM UTC

gareim wrote: post #2

I never understand when OSS projects give themselves names that will never go mainstream. If the goal is semi-popularity at least, then "Devuan" will not work.

To be fair, yahoo! and Google are pretty poor names too?

Re: Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

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Post by lomnakkus » Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 6:15 PM UTC

gareim wrote: post #2

I never understand when OSS projects give themselves names that will never go mainstream. If the goal is semi-popularity at least, then "Devuan" will not work.

In this particular case I don't think it'll matter. All the big distros have (thankfully[1]) standardized on systemd. At least we now have something to point the systemd haters towards, I guess.

[1] I doesn't even matter too much to me _which_ solution we have as long as it's reasonable (e.g. upstart wasn't) and a reasonably complete daemon supervision solution which can actually capture the output of the daemon's it's running, etc.

Re: Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

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Post by Koshkin » Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 6:15 PM UTC

gareim wrote: post #2

I never understand when OSS projects give themselves names that will never go mainstream. If the goal is semi-popularity at least, then "Devuan" will not work.

Well, it's not the name that makes a person, it's a person that makes the name... That's on the one hand. On the other hand, I agree with you - "Devuan", "Deviant"... Arrgh.

Re: Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

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Post by e12e » Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 6:17 PM UTC

"Devuan can be adopted as a flawless upgrade path from both Debian Wheezy and Jessie."

That is nice, to have a supported path of simply add sources, signing keys and apt-get dist-upgrade. Impressive work.

I'm personally not convinced there's a viable near future for Linux without systemd (not counting the mess that is android (as a potential workstation / server distro) - I think Debian/kFreeBSD is a better path.

But I'd love to be wrong.

Re: Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

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Post by nextos » Sat, Apr 22, 2017, 6:18 PM UTC

helb wrote: post #3

"Devuan Jessie 1.0 RC" on HN yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14167447 For those who forgot what Devuan was, like i did – basically a Debian fork without systemd.

For systemd-less distros, I really like GuixSD. A functional approach & Scheme for all stuff is a big plus.