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'Fight Inequality' Is a Poor Rallying Cry

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Re: 'Fight Inequality' Is a Poor Rallying Cry

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Believing in something you find morally wrong is not downright rude. Insisting someone else has no right to their opinion is.

>Believing in something you find morally wrong is not downright rude. He's entitled to his own normative moral opinions, not his own facts.

Sure, and "taxation is theft" is an opinion.

Re: 'Fight Inequality' Is a Poor Rallying Cry

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Random semi-related anecdote Japanese video game companies pay like 1/3rd or less what USA video game companies pay in salary. AFAIK similar things are true for other industries. Maybe not as bad as 1/3rd but that's not relevant to the point below. In Japanese school (17 years ago) my teacher brought up the topic that CEOs don't get paid as much in Japan so it's more equal. My response at the time was "why do I care…

What I don't get is how people can hear "the CEO makes 100x what I make" and not then think "there's a lot of money in this company, I should be paid a heck of a lot more". Cause you know it's not just the CEO that's taking a big chunk of change. Why be content with what you're given, even if it's a lot, when you could be demanding more, cause you know it's there?

Actually I thought the opposite. I thought, AFAIK this Japanese company is making similar income to USA companies, why can't they pay similar salaries. I've never found out the answer.

It could be an answer like taxes are high or other costs are high. It could be the fact that you can't easily get rid of bad employees in Japan and that eats up costs. It could be that they don't pay for experience, they hire out of college with no experience, especially Japanese colleges which have a reputation for not teaching anything, that would mean maybe the company costs are years of training their inexperienced employees up to western graduate levels.

I have no idea and I'd love to know. But, whatever it is I think I'd like them to fix it so they start paying similar salaries to their USA counterparts.

Re: 'Fight Inequality' Is a Poor Rallying Cry

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post #161

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>Believing in something you find morally wrong is not downright rude. He's entitled to his own normative moral opinions, not his own facts.

Sure, and "taxation is theft" is an opinion.

Sure, but "taxation causes schools to be worse, and student loans could support high-quality elementary education for all" is just outright wrong.

Re: 'Fight Inequality' Is a Poor Rallying Cry

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post #158

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If you wife counts the cost of commuting, dress clothing, supplies/materials, paying others to cook/clean/care, taxes... does this even make a profit? What is the point? Meanwhile, there is an impact on family life. There are only 168 hours in a week. Take out 56 for sleeping, 60 for work... now down to 52, which is 7.43 hours per day. In those 7.43 hours you must cook, eat, bathe, poop, shop, make love, commute, exe…

We don't have children. We don't believe in that "traditional role" rubbish. And also, we live in Boston: if you don't have two professionals working here, you don't make rent. Biotech was toxic for her, so she's taking a hit for a year to change fields.

I lived in Boston doing part-time IT help for what is $14.38/hour in 2017 dollars. You can make rent, just not in completely over-the-top fancy digs. I lived at 525 Newbury Street, in a basement apartment facing the alley. That isn't even a bad location; it is a very short walk away from the Kenmore Square station on the Green Line.

I had time for fun. I'm sure you can buy better toys than I could, but you mostly can't buy time.

Anyway, it is 100% false that you need two professionals to make rent. You could do it with a full-time minimum-wage job. Anything above that is luxury.

Re: 'Fight Inequality' Is a Poor Rallying Cry

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> "Americans from all backgrounds should have a fair shot at a quality education, not just those who happen to grow up in nice neighborhoods." While the rich pay more than their fair share and then some ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KENaWXPmBr0 ), I would think that quality education is something we could all get behind. It's unfortunate though that the left in large part seem to be opposed to school choice. That…

>That means that if you live in a more impoverished neighborhood, you're stuck with whatever school you're assigned to instead of being able to shop around, and for a lot of impoverished neighborhoods, that means schools with bad teachers and administrators, and there is no way out of it. This is a huge problem in black communities, and one area where the right legislation could make a significant impact. Fuck us for…

What are you doing to fix them? How can you ensure that bad school close down, and good schools thrive? Why not use a solution that has clearly worked? Why can't we agree that out of the infinite ways that people can organize themselves, that maybe having politicians and government runs things isn't the best solution in all cases?

Re: 'Fight Inequality' Is a Poor Rallying Cry

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> "Americans from all backgrounds should have a fair shot at a quality education, not just those who happen to grow up in nice neighborhoods." While the rich pay more than their fair share and then some ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KENaWXPmBr0 ), I would think that quality education is something we could all get behind. It's unfortunate though that the left in large part seem to be opposed to school choice. That…

> While the rich pay more than their fair share and then some Do you honestly think every tax bracket pays the same effective rate as the middle class? I think you will learn a lot in this thread.

> Do you honestly think every tax bracket pays the same effective rate as the middle class?

Are you talking to me? Because I didn't say that. What I said is that the rich pay for most for government services, which means that per person, they pay WAY MORE than their fair share. Elon Musk will be paying nearly half a billion dollars in income tax this year, what did YOU contribute? How much would you need to sacrifice in your life to pay a tenth of what he paid this year alone?

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