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The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people

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I worry many of these jobs will be temporary. We're just ramping up production of turbines and other equipment. Installations will peak within the next (maybe) 10 years and from then there will be less and less demain as maintenance will be the only thing we will require.

Won't our energy requirement keep increasing, requiring new turbines?

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The article does not respond to the claim of the president that windmills kill birds. Do they really in a significant way? Is it worthy of being called an environmental disaster?

Not just kill birds, they are noisy too.

Less and less with new gearboxes

Re: The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people

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post #29
post #17

The article does not respond to the claim of the president that windmills kill birds. Do they really in a significant way? Is it worthy of being called an environmental disaster?

Everything has pro and cons. Windmills have just a few cons like don't block the air space (bad for a few birds (but less bad than water power plans for fish), helicopters, planes) and some noise (but that's true for every powerplant technologies except photovoltaic panels). The good thing windmills are very eco-friendly. Only water/hydro and photovoltaic/sun-energy falls in the very same category.

And nuclear is in an even more eco-friendly category than those. This seems accurate: http://energyrealityproject.com/lets-run-the-numbers-nuclear...

Re: The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people

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post #30

I worry many of these jobs will be temporary. We're just ramping up production of turbines and other equipment. Installations will peak within the next (maybe) 10 years and from then there will be less and less demain as maintenance will be the only thing we will require.

That's what people thought about software 20 years ago.

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post #29
post #17

The article does not respond to the claim of the president that windmills kill birds. Do they really in a significant way? Is it worthy of being called an environmental disaster?

Everything has pro and cons. Windmills have just a few cons like don't block the air space (bad for a few birds (but less bad than water power plans for fish), helicopters, planes) and some noise (but that's true for every powerplant technologies except photovoltaic panels). The good thing windmills are very eco-friendly. Only water/hydro and photovoltaic/sun-energy falls in the very same category.

>water/hydro

As you suggest in your prior sentence, hydro is very disruptive environmentally in some cases. The Glen Canyon Dam (and the once proposed dams in the Grand Canyon) are particular cases in point. There's a general trend toward removing old dams in New England in part because of their environmental impact. Of course, small scale hydro like microturbines is far less disruptive but it generates far less power.

Re: The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything has pro and cons. Windmills have just a few cons like don't block the air space (bad for a few birds (but less bad than water power plans for fish), helicopters, planes) and some noise (but that's true for every powerplant technologies except photovoltaic panels). The good thing windmills are very eco-friendly. Only water/hydro and photovoltaic/sun-energy falls in the very same category.

And nuclear is in an even more eco-friendly category than those. This seems accurate: http://energyrealityproject.com/lets-run-the-numbers-nuclear...

Isn't the AP-1000 reactor he is citing about to cause the downfall of Westinghouse and Toshiba due to extreme cost overruns?

Upfront cost, liability and waste disposable with nuclear cannot be overlooked.

He also noted:

> A reactor has a 60-year service life.

Fukushima suggests otherwise. Holding on to old reactor designs has resulted in catastrophic failures.

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I live in a school bus, traveling the country. I think wind turbines are absolutely beautiful; I always marvel at them when we drive by. Does anybody here know how to break into this industry, working on a mobile, on-site basis? Maybe with embedded tech?

Windmill technology is fairly low tech. there are a few things around the wings but besides that it's not really a "tech" business IMO.

Any energy company is a technology company.

Re: The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people

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Anybody has a good link to compare TOC of solar vs wind? From what I've heard, solar panels have a definite lifespan, but are maintenance free until then. Wind could last longer provided you maintain it right.

Maintaining it right means monitoring it, which means a full time desk job for a controller looking at N turbines, and making regular site visits for inspections. Part of the inspection process means halting the turbine so one blade points straight down, and then rappelling down to inspect it for cracks and dirt (they're like windshields. bugs stick to them.)

Not on the same scale as installation, but still a steady source of jobs.

Re: The U.S. wind industry now employs more than 100K people

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post #36
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything has pro and cons. Windmills have just a few cons like don't block the air space (bad for a few birds (but less bad than water power plans for fish), helicopters, planes) and some noise (but that's true for every powerplant technologies except photovoltaic panels). The good thing windmills are very eco-friendly. Only water/hydro and photovoltaic/sun-energy falls in the very same category.

>water/hydro As you suggest in your prior sentence, hydro is very disruptive environmentally in some cases. The Glen Canyon Dam (and the once proposed dams in the Grand Canyon) are particular cases in point. There's a general trend toward removing old dams in New England in part because of their environmental impact. Of course, small scale hydro like microturbines is far less disruptive but it generates far less powe…

Don't count hydro out as part of the energy mix. It can complement PV as a reasonably efficient energy store.
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