I just heard an interesting talk about this on the Bitcoin Podcast[1] a few days ago. They have some inserting ideas around being able to democratize startup stage investing.
Introducing Token
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> All Bitcoin wallets, for example, use servers because it's impossible to do Bitcoin light clients (at least, they haven't found a solution yet). No, SPV clients exist to avoid running a node: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/4649/what-is-an-...
No true light client exists. SPV is different. See here a Core dev talking about it. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/53bfj6/will_there_... Even your own links says "A Bitcoin implementation that does not verify everything, but instead relies on either connecting to a trusted node"
SPV client security is enough for numerous use cases and many call them "light clients".
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#43Yo can I get a copy of the Apps source code?
Open Whisper Systems source is GPLv3.
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#44Maybe I am not getting it but ethereum is way to complex to make it successful - and because it is decentralised it looks deeply fragmented. As I said, I am probably not getting it.
It is indeed looking very complex, but that's because (as others have pointed out) it is still rather young. Ethereum itself is being implemented with a phased roadmap: Frontier, Homestead, Metropolis, Serenity. We're still in the Homestead phase, and Metropolis (the next phase) will, for example include "a relatively full-featured user interface for non-technical users" [1]. But even this is probably still years awa…
I realize this is pedantic, but your list of "Web" technologies doesn't reflect understanding. The Web is "just" HTTP. HTML and JavaScript come in to play as formats delivered by the Web, but you can also have HTML email which doesn't need the Web at all. DNS, FTP, and Gopher are other protocols that work over the Internet (TCP/IP, and, in DNS's case, UDP/IP). Server, Client and P2P are architectures for protocols built on top of the Internet. The Web, and the other protocols you listed, uses a client-server architecture. REST is an architecture for applications built on top of the Web. A browser is a Web (or Gopher) client.
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#45Yo can I get a copy of the Apps source code? Open Whisper Systems source is GPLv3.
Searching for 'whisper' on the page lead me to https://github.com/tokenbrowser
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#47living in Zimbabwe now, there a severe shortage of cash, Im hoping a project like this one will catch one day. good luck
Is Ether not in short supply around there? Serious question - is it easier or more likely to fix government issues which cause that lack of cash, or is it easier to fix those issues in order to get the technical infrastructure necessary to transplant technology not even widely used in the US? The notion that a poor villager would be reliant on the Ethereum network for anything is slightly terrifying. Where do they go…
they stated their aim is to help 2B people in develop countries.
it is very hard to fix the government. there are networks here, poor villagers how use money have a phone, I think its better to by-pass the government. relying on private company is terrifying as relying on third world government. decentralized solution would be the best.
also E-money is used here already, trough the cellular company but they have a monopoly backed by the government so its just another way of stealing from the people.
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#48Aside from the app, and what it can facilitate, I find chat UIs to be a zone for invention. Here Token partially formalized the UI [1] for menus and the like. As it is with Telegram for example, you provide a "keyboard" of a grid of buttons to press, similar to SOFA each button has a value. However Telegram does not have menus, so general purpose bots need a lot of back and forth to refine what the user's intention is.
With SOFA, it seems to be one payload with nested options that do not need to be committed in order to explore what options there are, reducing concerns for connectivity requirements just to find out what they can do.
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#49Yo can I get a copy of the Apps source code? Open Whisper Systems source is GPLv3.
There's a link to the source in the article.
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#50living in Zimbabwe now, there a severe shortage of cash, Im hoping a project like this one will catch one day. good luck
Is Ether not in short supply around there? Serious question - is it easier or more likely to fix government issues which cause that lack of cash, or is it easier to fix those issues in order to get the technical infrastructure necessary to transplant technology not even widely used in the US? The notion that a poor villager would be reliant on the Ethereum network for anything is slightly terrifying. Where do they go…
What's more scary is them getting branded as "terrorists".