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Billionaire Mike Novogratz says 10% of his money is in Bitcoin and Ether

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Has anyone noticed the disparity between how many articles get written about btc's price, and how little gets written about its real-life uses and benefits?

That's because writing about price changes requires little knowledge or research into how the system works.

I write meaty articles about Bitcoin; if that's what you seek, check out: http://www.coindesk.com/author/jameson-lopp/ and https://medium.com/@lopp

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Not a billionaire, but also trying to keep some percentage of my net worth in cryptocurrencies. Worked great so far. 10% seems to be about right. (I have much more trust in blockchain than in government retirement schemes).

>Not a billionaire, but also trying to keep some percentage of my net worth in cryptocurrencies. Worked great so far. 10% seems to be about right.

I don't see how people can look at cryptocurrencies as investments over the long term. It's like saying you have all your money in Swiss Francs in a checking account that returns no interest because you think the Swiss are doing a stellar job at setting up an economy/banking system.

In the short term you're basically betting on cryptocurrencies gaining adoption and thus more of the economy needing them. In the long term it's just a currency not an investment.

>(I have much more trust in blockchain than in government retirement schemes).

That's not the alternative, some kind of diversified portfolio of stocks (a simple index fund is usually the easiest) is the right benchmark. Personally I will always feel safer with owning a (very small) percentage of the total productive companies in the world than a currency that's only worth something as long as someone is willing to keep trading in that specific one and not change to some other one. I look at the value of my stock holdings in euros only because it's also my day to day currency but the underlying value can be repriced in any currency over the next 50 years (my investment horizon).

What I would really like to do is price my stock holdings as percentage of total world stock market capitalization (with plenty of decimal points). Anyone have a good source for that number?

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Has anyone noticed the disparity between how many articles get written about btc's price, and how little gets written about its real-life uses and benefits?

If you are using Bitcoin as a store of value then price is a major part of its real-life use and benefit.

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Not a billionaire, but also trying to keep some percentage of my net worth in cryptocurrencies. Worked great so far. 10% seems to be about right. (I have much more trust in blockchain than in government retirement schemes).

>Not a billionaire, but also trying to keep some percentage of my net worth in cryptocurrencies. Worked great so far. 10% seems to be about right. I don't see how people can look at cryptocurrencies as investments over the long term. It's like saying you have all your money in Swiss Francs in a checking account that returns no interest because you think the Swiss are doing a stellar job at setting up an economy/banki…

But a diversified stock portfolio wouldn't allow me to write smug Medium articles when speculation drives the price up and remain conspicuously silent when the price craters shortly thereafter.

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> [Novogratz] recalls that Buterin, ... showed up late, which struck him as shocking -- and a bit ballsy. He figured it was worth paying attention to Buterin. The lesson is to be impolite? I think I saw this in an episode of Silicon Valley.

The lesson is to be so good they can't ignore you.

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Something tells me he won’t be a billionaire for long.

I beg to differ. He had a 48 bagger on Ether, and I know he and Fortress were in early on Bitcoin, so I bet his cost basis on BTC is sub 100, so a solid 10 bagger. I think he's right about this being the third inning. I hold some BTC, and am looking to diversify into ZCash.

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> [Novogratz] recalls that Buterin, ... showed up late, which struck him as shocking -- and a bit ballsy. He figured it was worth paying attention to Buterin. The lesson is to be impolite? I think I saw this in an episode of Silicon Valley.

The lesson is to be so good they can't ignore you.

That may be true, but is not what the author seems to imply.

Re: Billionaire Mike Novogratz says 10% of his money is in Bitcoin and Ether

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Has anyone noticed the disparity between how many articles get written about btc's price, and how little gets written about its real-life uses and benefits?

That's because Bitcoin is still today too cumbersome to be used for anything other than speculation and drugs. No one goes to the grocery store thinking "gosh, I sure wish I could transfer some money to an exchange, buy some BTC, set up a wallet, transfer the BTC, wait for confirmations, scan a QR code to pay, and wait for confirmations again to pay for my groceries". The only people that want this are early early adopters with a large stash that cannot be made liquid easily, but otherwise adoption doesn't seem to be going anywhere besides the existing use cases.

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Has anyone noticed the disparity between how many articles get written about btc's price, and how little gets written about its real-life uses and benefits?

I feel like we're beyond pretending Bitcoin has said uses and benefits and have accepted its status as a technical commodity/investment instrument.

It could be because of the barriers to entry, even perceived barriers to entry, or barriers to said use that it's not actually being used for its intended "purpose", admittedly.

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Has anyone noticed the disparity between how many articles get written about btc's price, and how little gets written about its real-life uses and benefits?

It saddens me that bitcoin's path towards a common payment network is so slow. I've always liked the technology (or the core ideas behind it), but its adoption is hindered by popular and factual association with illegal activities, and by the recent stagnation regarding scaling.
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