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Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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> All that's required is a visit to a service centre. Doesn't seem like a big deal. This is probably true for now when the Teslas in production are mostly in the hands of people who can work out time and have a job secure enough to allow for that kind of thing. Tesla keeps having issues like this - and if they don't fix it by the time the Model 3 hits, this kind of thing could be their killer. They're basically throw…

Very true, but we're talking about here and now, and given the near-future, and not the time when Tesla hits a billion cars on the road. It's a good concern though, and I am sure they are well aware. Anecdotally, our Camry broke down today, and sucked up hours of our time, and still isn't fixed. No magical genie appeared to take it to service for me, so time sucked up on my end is just as much as any other service. A…

Well, I think the parent comment was more about the relatievly limited number of certified repair centers that Tesla has and the numerous stories about extremely long delays for repairs and part shipping that have been covered in major news and media. No one is expecting it to be fixed immediately without having to go to a service center, but the idea of 50,000+ Tesla cars having to suddenly go in for service when service centers are limited and have a history of slow repair times certainly would give me pause too - the difference between your Camry and a Tesla is that you could take your Camry to any of dozens of service centers or mechanics in your area. Even rural towns will likely have multiple garages that can work on most vehicles. This isn't the case with Tesla, even in heavily populated areas.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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> The electric car maker said about 2% of the 53,000 vehicles built from February to October 2016 were affected, but all of those cars are being recalled That's 1,060 cars altogether are affected.

They know the size of the affected batch (translated: their supplier knows), but have to recall nearly a year of production because they have absolutely no idea which cars the parts ended up in? Sound kind of disorganized, good luck at scaling.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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I...okay, that headline is just bad. Core issue: "A small gear may be defective in some cars; you should come into the service center and get it checked. If it breaks, you may be unable to disengage the parking brake." Headline: "Massive recall over brake issue!" It's not technically wrong. But it misleads more than it informs.

In my experience journalists often have the headline they WANT to write in their head prior to the unfolding of the real story.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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I...okay, that headline is just bad. Core issue: "A small gear may be defective in some cars; you should come into the service center and get it checked. If it breaks, you may be unable to disengage the parking brake." Headline: "Massive recall over brake issue!" It's not technically wrong. But it misleads more than it informs.

I don't think you could write the headline any less sensational and more informative. Tesla has to repair 53.000 cars, this is in itself newsworthy as it becomes clear that they are struggling with the same issues as any other car manufacturer and it should be a challenge to their operational logistics.

No. It's false. Tesla has to repair the 2% of 53k car produced (that is ~1k) for a minor problem that if occurs can make the car stuck with the parking brake engaged. Reading just the headline everyone would think that the owners of 53k are in immediate danger because the brakes are broken. If you still can't see the humongous difference then I have no idea what else to say.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This can be said about any problem in any car, "one of their suppliers f'ed up" because most things in a car are manufactured by suppliers today. Car manufacturers only assemble sub systems from 3rd parties. How comes if Ford f'ed up, it's Ford. If Toyota f'ed up, it's Toyota. If Tesla f'ed up (doors, brakes) it's a supplier?

Ford and Toyota have recalls on this scale and of this severity every couple months, and nobody notices. Tesla deserves a defence here because if it were any other automaker, the story wouldn't be "ford f'ed up", it wouldn't be news at all. As a fun example, my ford was recalled last year because the windshield wipers might be flammable . Did you read about that in the news?

Tesla doesn't have anywhere near the scale, history or number of product lines to make this a valid comparison.

People have been more tolerant of Tesla issues because of attachment to the mission/Elon and their role as early adopters. Now as Tesla moves toward the mainstream greater scrutiny, such as recall notices, should be given to them.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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post #43
post #5

I...okay, that headline is just bad. Core issue: "A small gear may be defective in some cars; you should come into the service center and get it checked. If it breaks, you may be unable to disengage the parking brake." Headline: "Massive recall over brake issue!" It's not technically wrong. But it misleads more than it informs.

In my experience journalists often have the headline they WANT to write in their head prior to the unfolding of the real story.

To the contrary, I think journalists often only get to advise on the headline, and the editors then choose/override one to their liking.
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