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Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory

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Re: Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory

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tl;dr: found that human umbilical cord plasma (= blood minus cells) improves old mice brain function (plasticity, memory), then teased out which protein in the cord plasma seems to have this effect (TIMP2) and showed that it is actively transported across blood-brain barrier (by marking it radioactively). Since this worked across species barriers, it can be speculated that a similar effect would be seen when administ…

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Re: Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory

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tl;dr: found that human umbilical cord plasma (= blood minus cells) improves old mice brain function (plasticity, memory), then teased out which protein in the cord plasma seems to have this effect (TIMP2) and showed that it is actively transported across blood-brain barrier (by marking it radioactively). Since this worked across species barriers, it can be speculated that a similar effect would be seen when administ…

Then efficacy, safety and long term safety have to be verified.

Apparently it is nowhere near as clear cut as expected. See the NPR article linked below.

Re: Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory

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Can young animal blood also make old humans smarter (sheep, goats, pigs, ...)? If so, and without adverse effects [1], an opportunity is discovered. Human cells might be better but a protein from animals might be cheaper and less ethically challenged, thus more accessible to the masses. [1] An expert please have a say whether that is plausible or not.

Well, antithrombin III is produced in goats [1], although it seems generally more effiecent [2] to produce recombinant proteins in pigs as they are closer related to us. Note, that these are recombinant proteins (human proteins produced in animals) not natural animal proteins that are used in humans. Also note that it might be sufficient to produce these proteins in another biological system like insulin in bacteria (which are easier to handle, carrier lower disease risks, better to scale etc.), it really depends on the complexity of the protein.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antithrombinhttps://en.wikiped... [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3925420/

Re: Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory

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tl;dr: found that human umbilical cord plasma (= blood minus cells) improves old mice brain function (plasticity, memory), then teased out which protein in the cord plasma seems to have this effect (TIMP2) and showed that it is actively transported across blood-brain barrier (by marking it radioactively). Since this worked across species barriers, it can be speculated that a similar effect would be seen when administ…

Then efficacy, safety and long term safety have to be verified. Apparently it is nowhere near as clear cut as expected. See the NPR article linked below.

The effects of TIMP2 described are very distinct. The paper was submitted in 2015, so it must have undergone a lot of scrutiny by reviewers with requests for additional experiments.

How this pans out in humans and in the long term is a different story.

Re: Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory

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tl;dr: found that human umbilical cord plasma (= blood minus cells) improves old mice brain function (plasticity, memory), then teased out which protein in the cord plasma seems to have this effect (TIMP2) and showed that it is actively transported across blood-brain barrier (by marking it radioactively). Since this worked across species barriers, it can be speculated that a similar effect would be seen when administ…

Then efficacy, safety and long term safety have to be verified. Apparently it is nowhere near as clear cut as expected. See the NPR article linked below.

Npr is not a great news source

Re: Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory

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should we start worrying people getting pregnant just to be harvested (voluntarily or not, for themselves or for sale)?

Listen to NPR's story for contemporary opinions against how this might not work for humans. http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/04/19/52397584...

Npr is not a great news source

Re: Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see why that would be necessary. I skimmed the article and did some additional poking around for the protein at issue. I can't tell if it's been characterized, but it may be possible to synthesize it or get cells to produce it for you- either or which would obviate the need to extract it from actual cord blood.

TIMP2 is a well known protein, available from many sources like this one: http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/sigma/srp3174?la...

and to add to car's point, it is a recombinant protein produced in E.coli (the foundational bacteria on which biomedical research has been built). Easy to grow, easy to manipulate. We may not need cord-blood at all. Which is a good thing in terms of the potential ethical issues that will crop up.

Re: Mice treated with a protein from umbilical cord plasma showed improved memory

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tl;dr: found that human umbilical cord plasma (= blood minus cells) improves old mice brain function (plasticity, memory), then teased out which protein in the cord plasma seems to have this effect (TIMP2) and showed that it is actively transported across blood-brain barrier (by marking it radioactively). Since this worked across species barriers, it can be speculated that a similar effect would be seen when administ…

Then efficacy, safety and long term safety have to be verified. Apparently it is nowhere near as clear cut as expected. See the NPR article linked below.

Isn't this protein already found in human plasma?
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