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Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Post by function_seven »

problems wrote: post #15
kirillzubovsky wrote: post #4

A very sensational title. One of their suppliers F'ed up, and now Tesla needs to check and replace a small part in some of their cars. All that's required is a visit to a service centre. Doesn't seem like a big deal.

> All that's required is a visit to a service centre. Doesn't seem like a big deal. This is probably true for now when the Teslas in production are mostly in the hands of people who can work out time and have a job secure enough to allow for that kind of thing. Tesla keeps having issues like this - and if they don't fix it by the time the Model 3 hits, this kind of thing could be their killer. They're basically throw…

> I could be wrong, but that probably won't scale so well.

This is an extremely common, routine even, thing that happens in the automotive industry. Every make and model of car has recalls from time to time, for issues just as minor as this. It scales.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Post by Gustomaximus »

badestrand wrote: post #16
Lazare wrote: post #5

I...okay, that headline is just bad. Core issue: "A small gear may be defective in some cars; you should come into the service center and get it checked. If it breaks, you may be unable to disengage the parking brake." Headline: "Massive recall over brake issue!" It's not technically wrong. But it misleads more than it informs.

I don't think you could write the headline any less sensational and more informative. Tesla has to repair 53.000 cars, this is in itself newsworthy as it becomes clear that they are struggling with the same issues as any other car manufacturer and it should be a challenge to their operational logistics.

"Tesla Recommends Parking Break Update"

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

IBM wrote: post #17
Lazare wrote: post #5

I...okay, that headline is just bad. Core issue: "A small gear may be defective in some cars; you should come into the service center and get it checked. If it breaks, you may be unable to disengage the parking brake." Headline: "Massive recall over brake issue!" It's not technically wrong. But it misleads more than it informs.

What? It's "Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue" which is the same as the headline on the HN post. I'm pretty used to the Tesla/Elon sycophants on HN (and Reddit and Twitter for that matter) but fabricating a headline to knock down is pretty brazen.

> fabricating a headline to knock down is pretty brazen.

Parent's "quote" was just a paraphrase. Calling it a fabrication is a bit much, don't you think?

Anyway, it deserves a knock down, IMO, because the first instinct when reading it is that there is an issue with the breaks that people most commonly use. Using the parking break isn't nearly as common or frequent as the regular breaks. Simply adding "parking" into the headline would have made it far less sensational and far more accurate.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Post by btian »

nerdface wrote: post #7

> The electric car maker said about 2% of the 53,000 vehicles built from February to October 2016 were affected, but all of those cars are being recalled That's 1,060 cars altogether are affected.

That's misleading. All 53,000 vehicles need to be inspected, but Tesla expects ~1000 vehicles to have problem.

Source: I received recall notice.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Post by problems »

function_seven wrote: post #21
problems wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All that's required is a visit to a service centre. Doesn't seem like a big deal. This is probably true for now when the Teslas in production are mostly in the hands of people who can work out time and have a job secure enough to allow for that kind of thing. Tesla keeps having issues like this - and if they don't fix it by the time the Model 3 hits, this kind of thing could be their killer. They're basically throw…

> I could be wrong, but that probably won't scale so well. This is an extremely common, routine even, thing that happens in the automotive industry. Every make and model of car has recalls from time to time, for issues just as minor as this. It scales.

Most of those manufacturers don't have to ship a car out-of-country to get it serviced though. Which - at least in my country is what Tesla has been doing.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Post by kayoone »

IBM wrote: post #17
Lazare wrote: post #5

I...okay, that headline is just bad. Core issue: "A small gear may be defective in some cars; you should come into the service center and get it checked. If it breaks, you may be unable to disengage the parking brake." Headline: "Massive recall over brake issue!" It's not technically wrong. But it misleads more than it informs.

What? It's "Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue" which is the same as the headline on the HN post. I'm pretty used to the Tesla/Elon sycophants on HN (and Reddit and Twitter for that matter) but fabricating a headline to knock down is pretty brazen.

The BBC headline is sensationalist and deserves being critiqued for being click-bait. Makes it sound like tens of thousands of people could potentially drive around with not-working brakes, while the actual issue is pretty minor and just related to the parking brake.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Post by function_seven »

problems wrote: post #25
function_seven wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I could be wrong, but that probably won't scale so well. This is an extremely common, routine even, thing that happens in the automotive industry. Every make and model of car has recalls from time to time, for issues just as minor as this. It scales.

Most of those manufacturers don't have to ship a car out-of-country to get it serviced though. Which - at least in my country is what Tesla has been doing.

Ok, that wouldn’t scale at all! But I imagine that if sales of that car increase in your country, then Tesla would build a service center there to save money. At this (small) scale, it’s probably cheaper to ship and fix than it is to staff up a service center.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Post by problems »

function_seven wrote: post #27
problems wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of those manufacturers don't have to ship a car out-of-country to get it serviced though. Which - at least in my country is what Tesla has been doing.

Ok, that wouldn’t scale at all! But I imagine that if sales of that car increase in your country, then Tesla would build a service center there to save money. At this (small) scale, it’s probably cheaper to ship and fix than it is to staff up a service center.

Are they planning to build out a full dealership network for their more consumer oriented stuff or are they still sticking with their direct-to-consumer model?

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Post by function_seven »

problems wrote: post #15
kirillzubovsky wrote: post #4

A very sensational title. One of their suppliers F'ed up, and now Tesla needs to check and replace a small part in some of their cars. All that's required is a visit to a service centre. Doesn't seem like a big deal.

> All that's required is a visit to a service centre. Doesn't seem like a big deal. This is probably true for now when the Teslas in production are mostly in the hands of people who can work out time and have a job secure enough to allow for that kind of thing. Tesla keeps having issues like this - and if they don't fix it by the time the Model 3 hits, this kind of thing could be their killer. They're basically throw…

Regarding your edit. I imagine the downvotes are in response to the hand-wringing statement about people who don’t have secure jobs being unable to get their cars fixed. This isn’t different from any other car that gets recalled. And recalls happen all the time across the industry.

Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue

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Post by function_seven »

problems wrote: post #28
function_seven wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, that wouldn’t scale at all! But I imagine that if sales of that car increase in your country, then Tesla would build a service center there to save money. At this (small) scale, it’s probably cheaper to ship and fix than it is to staff up a service center.

Are they planning to build out a full dealership network for their more consumer oriented stuff or are they still sticking with their direct-to-consumer model?

I don’t know the answer to that. All signs point toward maintaining the direct-to-consumer model. But that doesn’t preclude them building out a service-center network. The sales can be direct, but the service can be local.
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