> The electric car maker said about 2% of the 53,000 vehicles built from February to October 2016 were affected, but all of those cars are being recalled That's 1,060 cars altogether are affected.
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Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue
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Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue
#12A very sensational title. One of their suppliers F'ed up, and now Tesla needs to check and replace a small part in some of their cars. All that's required is a visit to a service centre. Doesn't seem like a big deal.
This can be said about any problem in any car, "one of their suppliers f'ed up" because most things in a car are manufactured by suppliers today. Car manufacturers only assemble sub systems from 3rd parties. How comes if Ford f'ed up, it's Ford. If Toyota f'ed up, it's Toyota. If Tesla f'ed up (doors, brakes) it's a supplier?
Ford and Toyota have recalls on this scale and of this severity every couple months, and nobody notices. Tesla deserves a defence here because if it were any other automaker, the story wouldn't be "ford f'ed up", it wouldn't be news at all.
As a fun example, my ford was recalled last year because the windshield wipers might be flammable. Did you read about that in the news?
Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue
#13A very sensational title. One of their suppliers F'ed up, and now Tesla needs to check and replace a small part in some of their cars. All that's required is a visit to a service centre. Doesn't seem like a big deal.
This can be said about any problem in any car, "one of their suppliers f'ed up" because most things in a car are manufactured by suppliers today. Car manufacturers only assemble sub systems from 3rd parties. How comes if Ford f'ed up, it's Ford. If Toyota f'ed up, it's Toyota. If Tesla f'ed up (doors, brakes) it's a supplier?
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Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue
#14Details surrounding the issue in question: In a statement the firm said the electric parking brakes installed on Model S and Model X "may contain a small gear that could have been manufactured improperly by our third-party supplier". If the gear were to break, the parking brake would continue to keep the car from moving, but the parking brake would be stuck in place, it added.
So this is a matter of brakes being unable to be _disengaged_ from standing rather than engaged at speed?
But now all the people using their parking brake while moving will be performing a possibly unsafe action!
Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue
#15A very sensational title. One of their suppliers F'ed up, and now Tesla needs to check and replace a small part in some of their cars. All that's required is a visit to a service centre. Doesn't seem like a big deal.
> All that's required is a visit to a service centre. Doesn't seem like a big deal.
This is probably true for now when the Teslas in production are mostly in the hands of people who can work out time and have a job secure enough to allow for that kind of thing.
Tesla keeps having issues like this - and if they don't fix it by the time the Model 3 hits, this kind of thing could be their killer. They're basically throwing money at the problem right now - and I could be wrong, but that probably won't scale so well. They really need to up the ante on their quality control.
EDIT: Wow, some serious Tesla fan boys around here... should have expected that I guess.
Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue
#16I...okay, that headline is just bad. Core issue: "A small gear may be defective in some cars; you should come into the service center and get it checked. If it breaks, you may be unable to disengage the parking brake." Headline: "Massive recall over brake issue!" It's not technically wrong. But it misleads more than it informs.
I don't think you could write the headline any less sensational and more informative. Tesla has to repair 53.000 cars, this is in itself newsworthy as it becomes clear that they are struggling with the same issues as any other car manufacturer and it should be a challenge to their operational logistics.
Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue
#17I...okay, that headline is just bad. Core issue: "A small gear may be defective in some cars; you should come into the service center and get it checked. If it breaks, you may be unable to disengage the parking brake." Headline: "Massive recall over brake issue!" It's not technically wrong. But it misleads more than it informs.
What? It's "Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue" which is the same as the headline on the HN post.
I'm pretty used to the Tesla/Elon sycophants on HN (and Reddit and Twitter for that matter) but fabricating a headline to knock down is pretty brazen.
Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue
#18I...okay, that headline is just bad. Core issue: "A small gear may be defective in some cars; you should come into the service center and get it checked. If it breaks, you may be unable to disengage the parking brake." Headline: "Massive recall over brake issue!" It's not technically wrong. But it misleads more than it informs.
I don't think you could write the headline any less sensational and more informative. Tesla has to repair 53.000 cars, this is in itself newsworthy as it becomes clear that they are struggling with the same issues as any other car manufacturer and it should be a challenge to their operational logistics.
Sure you could, just add "parking" before "brake." A brake issue is serious when it prevents a car from stopping -- not so much when it keeps a car stopped.
Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue
#19I...okay, that headline is just bad. Core issue: "A small gear may be defective in some cars; you should come into the service center and get it checked. If it breaks, you may be unable to disengage the parking brake." Headline: "Massive recall over brake issue!" It's not technically wrong. But it misleads more than it informs.
I don't think you could write the headline any less sensational and more informative. Tesla has to repair 53.000 cars, this is in itself newsworthy as it becomes clear that they are struggling with the same issues as any other car manufacturer and it should be a challenge to their operational logistics.
Until I read the parent comment, I was thinking that the issue was with cars being unable to stop. The omission of “parking” from the headline is not an accident.
Re: Tesla recalls 53,000 cars over brake issue
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
So this is a matter of brakes being unable to be _disengaged_ from standing rather than engaged at speed?
But now all the people using their parking brake while moving will be performing a possibly unsafe action!
The thing I haven't figured out yet is whether this is the brake engaged when you shift an automatic transmission into park, or if it is the emergency brake. If the latter, I'm not sure what the big deal is, since you should almost never use the e-brake.