The Intel Optane SSD DC P4800X (375GB) Review: Testing 3D XPoint Performance

Post by chx » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 6:19 PM UTC

dboreham wrote: post #8

saosebastiao wrote: post #5

Impressive. On a semi-related note, the fact that cloud providers offer managed Postgres databases is great, but things like this keep pushing me to think about bare metal in colo. A $20,000 server/backup combo with a couple of these will give me 5x the performance of a server that costs me $70k/year on AWS before provisioned IOPS . That's a huge gap to play with for taking care of your own maintenance costs.

It has always been the case that owned metal is much cheaper than cloud. Cloud wins for things like very small machines (you can't buy 20% of a metal box); temporary deployments; and startups where the investors don't want to be on the hook for big $$ capex that they end up needing to shift on eBay post flame-out. Also where you just don't have the ability to run hardware (increasingly the case) and where for whateve…

Post by ajross » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 6:27 PM UTC

randta wrote: post #2

Better than NAND performance if ever so slightly for a first generation memory product but I still feel like it would not able to scale to DRAM speeds. The search for a universal memory goes on...

Post by cookiecaper » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 6:28 PM UTC

chx wrote: post #11

dboreham wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has always been the case that owned metal is much cheaper than cloud. Cloud wins for things like very small machines (you can't buy 20% of a metal box); temporary deployments; and startups where the investors don't want to be on the hook for big $$ capex that they end up needing to shift on eBay post flame-out. Also where you just don't have the ability to run hardware (increasingly the case) and where for whateve…

I never understood this. Just rent a dedicated box or ten. There's no capex, it's way cheaper to have 3-5 times the capability you will need just sitting there instead of renting stuff from Amazon with all the I/O unpredictability, complexity, w/e. People talk as if colo and cloud is the only solution -- and I am like, rent dedicated is the only solution. I do not readily know how huge your site needs to be for colo…

Post by kkielhofner » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 6:38 PM UTC

chx wrote: post #11

dboreham wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has always been the case that owned metal is much cheaper than cloud. Cloud wins for things like very small machines (you can't buy 20% of a metal box); temporary deployments; and startups where the investors don't want to be on the hook for big $$ capex that they end up needing to shift on eBay post flame-out. Also where you just don't have the ability to run hardware (increasingly the case) and where for whateve…

I never understood this. Just rent a dedicated box or ten. There's no capex, it's way cheaper to have 3-5 times the capability you will need just sitting there instead of renting stuff from Amazon with all the I/O unpredictability, complexity, w/e. People talk as if colo and cloud is the only solution -- and I am like, rent dedicated is the only solution. I do not readily know how huge your site needs to be for colo…

Post by adrianN » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 6:49 PM UTC

mtanski wrote: post #6

Some people like to claim that old storage technologies go away. But in reality old storage technologies live on along side of new... all that happens is that we end up having more tiers to deal with. Drum magnetic memory has been replace but we still have spinning rust, tape, optical, DRAM, SRAM, SSD...