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Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by speeder »

striking wrote: post #121
speeder wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was using only nVidia my whole life, and got tired of some of their business-related bullshit. So I thought AMD was going to be better, because they try to be good and nice... Well, AMD hardware is NOT good as nVidia (example: 380x in particular is really fast, but EXTREMELY power hungry, so much power hungry that AMD had to greatly cripple it, sometimes it starts stuttering heavily in games before it gets hot, and…

> their Open Source driver for Linux is so much crap it was entirely rejected by the kernel team No, amdgpu was not rejected by the kernel team. A particular implementation of the driver was rejected because it implemented an abstraction layer, and that would make it nearly impossible for kernel devs to maintain. > drawing too much power from the mobo and damaging it If you could point to an example of this happening…

"slightly" out of spec you mean pulling 7.7 amperes from a part rated to 5.5 amperes, and that might (due to dust and other factors) pull all the 7.7 amperes from pins that are supposed to have only 1.1 ampere running trough them.

Just look in the AMD own official forums for threads created before they made driver patches, for example in one thread a guy put a photo of his molten blockchain mining rig, and then there was several pages of people calling him a nVidia shill, and noone helping.

The handling of the incidents were so bad I stopped visiting AMD forums entirely, it was just pure hostility to anyone with any problem, even unrelated problems.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by criddell »

yaantc wrote: post #34
crazy2be wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By perfectly fine, do you mean: - Wifi is flaky (ier than on windows) - Battery life is shit (ier than on windows) - Sleep mode has one of the following problems * Does not properly suspend (i.e. wakes up immediately when suspending, shuts down instead of suspending) * Does not properly resume (i.e. kernel crash on resume) * Sometimes does not properly resume (even more annoying to debug) * Resumes randomly, when you…

Owner of a Thinkpad X1 3rd gen running Debian (started with Jessie, now Stretch), and my experience is quite different but there are some things to know. Let's trade anecdotes: > - Wifi is flaky (ier than on windows) No problem there, always been rock solid. The chipset is likely to matter, my laptop uses an Intel chipset. Performance wise Intel may not be the best, but the Linux support has always been good in my ex…

> A very common misunderstanding, and very easy to solve.

If it were that easy to solve, I would think Linux installers would take care of this.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by lallysingh »

arcanus wrote: post #154
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #145

The posts comparing various laptops to the Dell XPS 13 and calling them similarly sized are missing a key point: the XPS 13's lack of bezels. It is a 13" screen, but due to the lack of bezels, it basically fits in an 11" chassis. I think that's an often overlooked detail and one of the pieces of "sexiness" that makes it very difficult to want to switch away from an XPS 13: it's so damn portable. System76 needs to com…

> The market that is still untapped is that of the Linux ultrabooks. Developers and other Linux enthusiasts basically just want a MBA/MBP that runs Linux natively. Do that, and people will flock to it. You nailed it. I'm someone who only works in Linux but admires (and desires) the form factor of a MBA.

With a full-size escape key, and even a trackpoint option. That'd be nice.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by billsmithaustin »

josephpmay wrote: post #9

I wish System 76 the best of luck, and it appears as they're now the main developer/sponsor of RedoxOS, which really excites me, but for some reason this blog post reads to me to have a healthy dose of naivety to it. It seems like they want to have their cake and eat it too. They talk about "robots and automation!" but do they actually know how to run a modern factory? Can the demand for desktop Linux systems actuall…

I see the main developer works for System76, and System76 says RedoxOS is his "personal project", but does that imply System76 is sponsoring RedoxOS? Or does it mean they have an employee who works on RedoxOS at home?

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by cmurf »

neverminder wrote: post #156
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #145

The posts comparing various laptops to the Dell XPS 13 and calling them similarly sized are missing a key point: the XPS 13's lack of bezels. It is a 13" screen, but due to the lack of bezels, it basically fits in an 11" chassis. I think that's an often overlooked detail and one of the pieces of "sexiness" that makes it very difficult to want to switch away from an XPS 13: it's so damn portable. System76 needs to com…

This. Plus at least two USB 3.1 Type-C (Thunderbolt/DisplayPort) ports with USB Type-C charging would really make it stand out.

Strictly speaking this is Thunderbolt 3 (PCIe) which when the proper adapter is plugged in, can become HDMI, DisplayPort. And it would be USB 3.1 Gen 2. USB 3.1 alone implies Gen 1 which is the same as USB 3.0.

The HP Spectre (W2K28UA) I have has three type-c ports. One is USB 3.1 Gen 1, is not Thunderbolt, is power. Two are Thunderbolt 3, USB 3.1 Gen 2, no power. (No power icon anyway, I haven't tried plugging the power adapter into either of them, maybe it'd work.)

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by themodelplumber »

sacul wrote: post #153
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #145

The posts comparing various laptops to the Dell XPS 13 and calling them similarly sized are missing a key point: the XPS 13's lack of bezels. It is a 13" screen, but due to the lack of bezels, it basically fits in an 11" chassis. I think that's an often overlooked detail and one of the pieces of "sexiness" that makes it very difficult to want to switch away from an XPS 13: it's so damn portable. System76 needs to com…

MBP-quality trackpads and MBP-equivalent battery life. I can't understand why battery life isn't higher on the list of "must haves" for people who want a nice linux laptop.

Do you ever have to do any laptopping for more than 2-3 hours in a place where there is no opportunity to plug in to a power source? My experience simply says that's really unlikely for me, and my couch and desk at work are 99.999% of the use cases. So battery allows me to meet these vendors halfway.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by Can_Not »

crazy2be wrote: post #58
keymone wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

vga and ethernet on modern laptop is a sin. they are barely younger than 5" floppy disks.

VGA is still the most common connector type I see on projectors and in conference rooms. It's being slowly replaced by HDMI, they might be about even now. Ethernet is still the premier PHY layer for people who want their shit to work. Wifi is still flaky as crap these days in many places. Thus, there is no Ethernet replacement yet. As chriswarbo says, the age of the tech is completely irrelevant. Instead, it's the ut…

If I needed a VGA, I'd prefer a mini Display Port with an adapter cable (which are relatively cheap). If they made a micro DisplayPort, that would be cool too.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by 0x27081990 »

sacul wrote: post #153
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #145

The posts comparing various laptops to the Dell XPS 13 and calling them similarly sized are missing a key point: the XPS 13's lack of bezels. It is a 13" screen, but due to the lack of bezels, it basically fits in an 11" chassis. I think that's an often overlooked detail and one of the pieces of "sexiness" that makes it very difficult to want to switch away from an XPS 13: it's so damn portable. System76 needs to com…

MBP-quality trackpads and MBP-equivalent battery life. I can't understand why battery life isn't higher on the list of "must haves" for people who want a nice linux laptop.

This. I've always been a Linux and OpenBSD user, but I'm buying a MBP 13" next week mostly for portability and battery life, planning to run macOS instead of Linux just because of this.
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