95% engineers in India unfit for software development jobs: study

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Post by Etheryte » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:47 PM UTC

95% engineers in India unfit for software development jobs: study
thehindubusinessline.com

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Post by rdslw » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 2:02 PM UTC

More and more software companies purely based from India deny this claim.

One of many examples competing (successfully) with (for example) California companies (who pay around 2..4x their devs): http://enpass.io

Disclaimer: I'm not Indian but European and not enpass owner/user/developer.

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Post by threatofrain » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 2:04 PM UTC

Hard to trust a private study conducted by a company whose interest is in convincing businesses that they can't effectively hire without their tests and certifications.

Even if the figure is true, this is not the right starting point for discussion. Also, we can do better with direct links to studies, rather than bad journalism digests.

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Post by nv-vn » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 2:04 PM UTC

I'm confused. Is this saying they couldn't write code for machine learning, or that the evaluation program used machine learning.

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Post by markhenderson » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 2:04 PM UTC

Has anybody here taken the automata test? Thoughts?

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 2:04 PM UTC

nv-vn wrote: post #4

I'm confused. Is this saying they couldn't write code for machine learning, or that the evaluation program used machine learning.

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Post by nkkollaw » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 2:06 PM UTC

I've worked with low-level Indian programmers, and they did write some crazy code. There are also really good ones.

I refuse to believe this article, though. It seems very much a clickbait title/article to get visitors to their website. Any study can prove pretty much anything.

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Post by king_magic » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 2:07 PM UTC

nv-vn wrote: post #4

I'm confused. Is this saying they couldn't write code for machine learning, or that the evaluation program used machine learning.

I think it's this: http://www.aspiringminds.com/technology/automata

"Automata is world's most advanced and only programming assessment that uses machine learning for grading programs."

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Post by dpratt » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 2:07 PM UTC

I'd be curious to see the success rate for US-based engineers as well. I suspect it would be higher, but not by much at all. In my experience, outside of the prestige companies and communities, most of the people in our field are dangerously unskilled.

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Post by mark_l_watson » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 2:07 PM UTC

I don't believe this. I have worked with many offshore teams in the last 15 years, and the teams in India have been roughly on par with teams in Eastern Europe. The only advantage of European teams is that they seem to be better educated in areas outside of software engineering, like mathematics.