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Re: Tmux and Vim – better together

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Post by gideonparanoid » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:21 PM UTC

paapi__gudiya wrote: post #13

I use vim 7.4 and it segfaults atleast four-five times everyday. I suspect it's some plugin that is causing it to crash but I don't really know. Does it happen to anyone else too? I have mapped Ctrl-C to ESC and I use it often. One specific instance I have seen vim crash is when the cursor is at np.inf and I press Ctrl-C.

I had this problem about a month ago until I upgraded to Vim 8 - not had a segfault since.

It's also worth spring-cleaning your config/plugin setups.

Re: Tmux and Vim – better together

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Post by hultner » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:23 PM UTC

pdexter wrote: post #23

skrebbel wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used it for a while but then I realized that ConEmu also supports split panes, and then i can just scroll/select the buffers by mouse instead of ctrl+b, [. ConEmu really is an amazing piece of work. Quirky to configure (but hey, so it tmux), but truly amazing still :-)

You can scroll using mouse in tmux too. :set mouse Not sure about selecting panes with mouse though

Selecting, resizing and scrolling panes as well as text selection works for me on Linux (urxvt) and macOS (iTerm), don't know about windows but I don't see why not. Using mouse on, works very seamless with the "new" mouse on setting these days.

Re: Tmux and Vim – better together

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Post by rublev » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:27 PM UTC

juandazapata wrote: post #40

zeroxfe wrote: post #30

All this looks really great, however I think I just can't deal with the effort of maintaining these complex editor configurations anymore. I've been a multi-decade Vim user, until I switched to VSCode last year. It made me realize how much better the user experience can be for an editor. I had all kinds of complex vim configurations and plugins with special cases for linux vs. mac, server vs. desktop, GUI vs. termina…

Weird. I built my .rc files like 10 years ago, and only edit them about twice a year to add a plugin or modify a keybinding. Not a pain to maintain at all.

How do you store them? Just backup into a dotfiles repo or what? I've been looking into dotfiles + gnu stow.

Re: Tmux and Vim – better together

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Post by taude » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:27 PM UTC

Looks like what he really needs/wants is an IDE.

Re: Tmux and Vim – better together

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Post by fredsir » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:29 PM UTC

ika wrote: post #35

zeroxfe wrote: post #30

All this looks really great, however I think I just can't deal with the effort of maintaining these complex editor configurations anymore. I've been a multi-decade Vim user, until I switched to VSCode last year. It made me realize how much better the user experience can be for an editor. I had all kinds of complex vim configurations and plugins with special cases for linux vs. mac, server vs. desktop, GUI vs. termina…

Same here! I've been using both Vim (4 year) and Tmux (2 year) and I noticed I was actually spending more time configuring my text editor rather than just writing code. So I switched first to Atom and then to VSCode and I'm supper happy with the result.

What are you guys doing with your configurations?

I've been using vim since 2009 and tmux for the last 5 years. Initially, I had to figure out how things worked, and that took some time, but I never spent any time configuring it now except if I find a new plugin and figure out a new feature I'd like to add.

Re: Tmux and Vim – better together

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Post by juandazapata » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:29 PM UTC

rcpt wrote: post #6

Mouse integration has always been the blocker for me with tmux. Any good solutions out there yet?

Mouse works perfectly fine (at least in macOs), you can even resize vim panes and tmux panes using the mouse.

Re: Tmux and Vim – better together

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Post by hultner » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:30 PM UTC

vitorsgomes wrote: post #9

How do you guys share session in TMUX beetween computers that there are not in the same local network?

mosh with ssh, very fast, resilient and excellent when roaming networks. Even the worst train network connections work decently with mosh.

https://mosh.org/

Re: Tmux and Vim – better together

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Post by zeroxfe » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:30 PM UTC

adrianN wrote: post #33

zeroxfe wrote: post #30

All this looks really great, however I think I just can't deal with the effort of maintaining these complex editor configurations anymore. I've been a multi-decade Vim user, until I switched to VSCode last year. It made me realize how much better the user experience can be for an editor. I had all kinds of complex vim configurations and plugins with special cases for linux vs. mac, server vs. desktop, GUI vs. termina…

Neovim tries to improve defaults. My vimrc is 32 lines and contains no ifs and I'm reasonably happy with it. I don't use many plugins. The configuration is only as complicated as you make it to be. I suppose over the decades you used vim your vimrc accrued many layers of cruft. I wonder how your VSCode config will look like in 20 years.

> The configuration is only as complicated as you make it to be.

Sure, I understand that, and it's tricky maintaining a balance between simple configuration and features. My point is that with VSCode, there's just so much I get for free, with a very pleasant user experience. I still use vim when I need a quick editor in a terminal, but VSCode is my always-on go-to editor of choice for coding.

> I suppose over the decades you used vim your vimrc accrued many layers of cruft.

Yeah, I think I've got about 2 - 4 years of cruft (because I refactor and garbage collect a little bit every year.) But not 20. :-)

Still, it's a pain point that VSCode takes away. :-/

Re: Tmux and Vim – better together

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Post by dwc » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:31 PM UTC

zeroxfe wrote: post #30

All this looks really great, however I think I just can't deal with the effort of maintaining these complex editor configurations anymore. I've been a multi-decade Vim user, until I switched to VSCode last year. It made me realize how much better the user experience can be for an editor. I had all kinds of complex vim configurations and plugins with special cases for linux vs. mac, server vs. desktop, GUI vs. termina…

People have different workflows, and different desires for what they want out of their editor. For myself, I have just enough vim config to turn off compat mode and enable a few things. I think the only plugin I use is fugitive for git. I used to be a full blown IDE person, but I found that I really don't need all that stuff. Vim as a more featureful vi makes me very happy and requires no ongoing maintenance.

Re: Tmux and Vim – better together

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Post by ryanswapp » Thu, Apr 20, 2017, 1:31 PM UTC

zeroxfe wrote: post #30

All this looks really great, however I think I just can't deal with the effort of maintaining these complex editor configurations anymore. I've been a multi-decade Vim user, until I switched to VSCode last year. It made me realize how much better the user experience can be for an editor. I had all kinds of complex vim configurations and plugins with special cases for linux vs. mac, server vs. desktop, GUI vs. termina…

Same boat. I use Atom with vim keybindings now and I feel much more productive than when I rolled with straight vim + tmux. Great tools, but there are much better options these days.