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Re: Come stay at the hacker house in San Jose, Free

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Post by Prrometheus »

jdavid wrote: post #25

this brings up a point.. do we need a YC hacker housing feed? We are moving from the Midwest and are interested in meeting as many people out there as possible. I have been trying Roommates.com now for a while, but many people there are not as crazy into the start up experience as we are. We are planing on renting a uHaul in the middle of May.

On my great big idea whiteboard, I have "Hacker Classifieds" listed for just this reason. Why not build it in your spare time? I'll be trying to launch my site at the end of May.

Re: Come stay at the hacker house in San Jose, Free

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Post by motley_fool »

petercooper wrote: post #28
lee wrote: post #13

Why guys only? I've had roommate situations with both genders and mixing has never hurt.

When you're a young, unsettled man, you don't necessarily want to "waste" time extending the courtesies that are generally required when you live with women. All that nonsense with toilet seats, over the top levels of cleanliness, not calling people douchebags or bitches for fun, etc. Now, there are quite a few women out there who can operate just like men and would be just as good as a man in the anticipated role, b…

It's still a shock to me to see otherwise egalitarian and meritocracy-minded hackers engage in such blatant and naive sexism.

That's in response to your first paragraph. I can agree with the second.

Re: Come stay at the hacker house in San Jose, Free

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Post by ichverstehe »

petercooper wrote: post #28
lee wrote: post #13

Why guys only? I've had roommate situations with both genders and mixing has never hurt.

When you're a young, unsettled man, you don't necessarily want to "waste" time extending the courtesies that are generally required when you live with women. All that nonsense with toilet seats, over the top levels of cleanliness, not calling people douchebags or bitches for fun, etc. Now, there are quite a few women out there who can operate just like men and would be just as good as a man in the anticipated role, b…

I'd actually like to work with female hackers. Never met one, but I'm pretty sure you could learn something. Different approaches to things, yeah.

Re: Come stay at the hacker house in San Jose, Free

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Post by jlam »

lee wrote: post #13

Why guys only? I've had roommate situations with both genders and mixing has never hurt.

Perhaps even more important than diversity in gender, diversity in age and experience contribute even more to a project. So long as people are bright and hard-working, they can contribute lots. In the technology world, age prejudice runs more rampant than gender prejudice.

Re: Come stay at the hacker house in San Jose, Free

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Post by jlam »

samwise wrote: post #49

I just want to thank everyone for their positive feedback and all the great applicants. There's a lot of great talent and i'm sure we'll have no problem finding the right people. My only wish is that we have more room. I also wanted to take this time to respond to a couple comments. why only girls you ask. I think this is a non-issue since most girls wouldn't want to live in a house full of "geeks", but in either cas…

Instead of merely having a home, why not incorporate it as a non-profit cooperative. The paperwork isn't very hard. We've done it from scratch here at the http://Ant-Hill.org in Rochester. The effort to found a developer/start-up co-op then goes on to sustain yet more start-ups. A co-op/social venture would grow independently and foster others, and even help sustain your venture in a positive feedback cycle too.

Re: Come stay at the hacker house in San Jose, Free

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Post by DavidSJ »

samwise wrote: post #49

I just want to thank everyone for their positive feedback and all the great applicants. There's a lot of great talent and i'm sure we'll have no problem finding the right people. My only wish is that we have more room. I also wanted to take this time to respond to a couple comments. why only girls you ask. I think this is a non-issue since most girls wouldn't want to live in a house full of "geeks", but in either cas…

If you're worried about distractions, just make them wear a burka.

Re: Come stay at the hacker house in San Jose, Free

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Post by petercooper »

motley_fool wrote: post #52
petercooper wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you're a young, unsettled man, you don't necessarily want to "waste" time extending the courtesies that are generally required when you live with women. All that nonsense with toilet seats, over the top levels of cleanliness, not calling people douchebags or bitches for fun, etc. Now, there are quite a few women out there who can operate just like men and would be just as good as a man in the anticipated role, b…

It's still a shock to me to see otherwise egalitarian and meritocracy-minded hackers engage in such blatant and naive sexism. That's in response to your first paragraph. I can agree with the second.

It's not "sexist" to state things that are "generally" true. At least, no more sexist than saying men are "generally" into sports. I'm not into sports, but I would not be offended if a women were to say this since it IS "generally" true.

Re: Come stay at the hacker house in San Jose, Free

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Post by petercooper »

bdr wrote: post #38
petercooper wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you're a young, unsettled man, you don't necessarily want to "waste" time extending the courtesies that are generally required when you live with women. All that nonsense with toilet seats, over the top levels of cleanliness, not calling people douchebags or bitches for fun, etc. Now, there are quite a few women out there who can operate just like men and would be just as good as a man in the anticipated role, b…

All discrimination is at the personal level. Discrimination in society is the integral.

In that case, there must be two levels of discrimination.

I have lots of preferences and discriminate between different products, people, and choices all the time.

I am very much against institutionalized discrimination, however.

Let's say I wouldn't want to personally work with someone who couldn't speak English. That's a personal choice, but I wouldn't want the same person to be discriminated against in terms of politics, job opportunities, and other senses.

Perhaps the difference is passive versus active discrimination. The former being someone operating on their preferences (that is, choosing not to live in a black neighbourhood or choosing not to date blondes) versus active discrimation (attacking people of a certain color or gender, implementing discriminatory policies at a workplace, etc.)

I think passive discrimination is necessary for the world to work, but active discrimination should be avoided and discouraged.

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