Software company's response to Australian government abolishing migrant visas
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Re: Software company's response to Australian government abolishing migrant visas
#2Can someone give me some context here? So now it's impossible to hire foreign workers?
Re: Software company's response to Australian government abolishing migrant visas
#3Can someone give me some context here? So now it's impossible to hire foreign workers?
The only visa removed right now is the sponsored, temporary one. That means people coming to work for a specific company for at most 4 years.
Other paths are still open. For example permanent visas without sponsorship. That one is likely harder to obtain however.
Re: Software company's response to Australian government abolishing migrant visas
#4Can someone give me some context here? So now it's impossible to hire foreign workers?
As far as I'm aware, it's being phased out in favour of two replacement visa classes, I don't know what this software company is complaining about.
The 457 had a fairly weak market assessment component unlike, for example, the (successful, but stringent) Canadian temporary work visas; so they're replacing the 457 programme with two separate programmes which include market assessments.
I think the replacements also don't contribute to an application for permanent residence, so you would need to qualify for an unsponsored work visa to become a permanent resident.
The article seems to frame the policy as anti-immigrant, though that is pretty thin. If you qualify to immigrate under the new visa programmes, then you are no less a legitimate immigrant.
Re: Software company's response to Australian government abolishing migrant visas
#5Can someone give me some context here? So now it's impossible to hire foreign workers?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-18/government-abolishing-...
No, there are two new visas coming in to replace the 457 visa. It's fairly unclear to me specifically what will change under the new visa structure. One supposed change is that "there won't be permanent residency outcomes at the end of [the new 2 year visa]", but otherwise it sounds like it is possibly just a shrink to the list of approved jobs. Honestly, it sounds like it's just a ploy to grab back some voters who have defected to the far-right One Nation party without making any significant change. This suspicion is strengthened by another "announcement" [1] about the citizenship test which just appears to be a cheap shot at criticising Islamic culture based on a recent incident. [2]
[1] http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-20/migrants-to-face-tough...
[2] http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-13/islamic-groups-video-t...
Re: Software company's response to Australian government abolishing migrant visas
#6They should just replace the whole shebang with 'pay us $x to get a visa, $y for PR, $z for citizenship'.
Company wants to hire from overseas? Fine, they can figure out how to split the cost between company and employee, with zero government involvement. Rich people from the US seeking doomsday shelter? A few million dollars, a clean criminal record and less than 48 hours in the queue. Much easier than the current system.
Re: Software company's response to Australian government abolishing migrant visas
#7Can someone give me some context here? So now it's impossible to hire foreign workers?
Companies are only meant to use the visa to fill a need/gap where there are no local workers to fill a job.
The minimum wage for the visa is $40,000 USD ($53k AUD).
What companies are doing however, is hiring foreign workers (typically from India for IT based roles) and paying them $40k rather than the local average wage of $75-100k.
They are using the visa as a method to decrease wage costs to almost half of what a local worker would cost.
I believe companies are complaining as there is a possibility that there will be less access to cheap foreign labour and they'll have to start paying true costs for workers.
Re: Software company's response to Australian government abolishing migrant visas
#8Can someone give me some context here? So now it's impossible to hire foreign workers?
Companies are only meant to use the visa to fill a need/gap where there are no local workers to fill a job. The minimum wage for the visa is $40,000 USD ($53k AUD). What companies are doing however, is hiring foreign workers (typically from India for IT based roles) and paying them $40k rather than the local average wage of $75-100k. They are using the visa as a method to decrease wage costs to almost half of what a…
I'm guessing you haven't had to try and hire devs in Australia before if cost of developers is what you think the main problem is.
Re: Software company's response to Australian government abolishing migrant visas
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Companies are only meant to use the visa to fill a need/gap where there are no local workers to fill a job. The minimum wage for the visa is $40,000 USD ($53k AUD). What companies are doing however, is hiring foreign workers (typically from India for IT based roles) and paying them $40k rather than the local average wage of $75-100k. They are using the visa as a method to decrease wage costs to almost half of what a…
I'm guessing you haven't had to try and hire devs in Australia before if cost of developers is what you think the main problem is.
Can you explain?
Re: Software company's response to Australian government abolishing migrant visas
#10Can someone give me some context here? So now it's impossible to hire foreign workers?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-18/government-abolishing-... No, there are two new visas coming in to replace the 457 visa. It's fairly unclear to me specifically what will change under the new visa structure. One supposed change is that "there won't be permanent residency outcomes at the end of [the new 2 year visa]", but otherwise it sounds like it is possibly just a shrink to the list of approved jobs. Honestly…
Not much will change at all, it's just a stunt for headlines. the most abused occupation titles are still there.