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Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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Re: Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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Post by robterrell »

40acres wrote: post #27
vr46 wrote: post #23

Hmm, not pleased, we have two sets of the 35 earphones and I use the app - well, I have to, else I can't change some settings on the earphones. This is totally overstepping the boundaries of what earphones/headphones should be doing. Any company that collects my data and moves it from under my purview to theirs should have to display or expose this data in the exact form that it's collected to the user, so we can see…

What settings can you change in the app that are not available through the headphones?

I have these headphones paired to a number of devices and the app makes managing that simpler (if, say, I want to prioritize the output from my phone instead of my laptop).

Re: Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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Post by algesten »

rhaps0dy wrote: post #59
fastbeef wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ranking system?!

I suppose you can compete with other people on who brushes the teeth more regularly and for the full required time. Gamification of dental health! I think this is a good thing.

Submit your dental hygiene score to a central site. Build score boards and have monthly competitions! BRUSHER OF THE MONTH!

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Post by mmanfrin »

ecomhacker wrote: post #45
vr46 wrote: post #23

Hmm, not pleased, we have two sets of the 35 earphones and I use the app - well, I have to, else I can't change some settings on the earphones. This is totally overstepping the boundaries of what earphones/headphones should be doing. Any company that collects my data and moves it from under my purview to theirs should have to display or expose this data in the exact form that it's collected to the user, so we can see…

This reminds me of a bluetooth toothbrush I just bought that requires my location to be enabled to change the settings via the oral b app which is required since this model has less buttons than others. The reason why I bought a bluetooth toothbrush was for a wireless hardware clock, brushing timer, and ranking system which also really doesn't work correctly even with the app.

I am very surprised at the negativity in the reply to this. Of all things to gameify, brushing your teeth is a fantastic subject. It helps develop good habits for a personal and typically solitary activity.

Re: Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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Post by Eiriksmal »

Danihan wrote: post #91
rhizome wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bose (et al) thinks you're overstepping your bounds by having a problem with their monetization strategy.

I can't wait until my Bose® active suspension system tracks everywhere I drive and sells the data to local companies! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8sVDenpPOE

You'll be disappointed to know that project was axed more than a decade ago. The tech is incredible, but the only manufacturer they could interest in that level of performance at that high level of cost (Ferrari) had serious issues with the weight of the system. Ferrari declined to use it and invested more research into magnetorheological dampers, instead.

Source: I know one of the engineers who was on the project.

Re: Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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Post by satori99 »

portlander12345 wrote: post #101
wyager wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't mind IEMs, they offer superior sound blocking to over-ear headphones with active noise cancelling, especially with foam earpieces. If that works for you, get any decent pair of Shure IEMs (or anything that uses the MMCX connector). Then you can purchase a Bluetooth receiver that connects to any brand of MMCX IEMs. This is nice because now the most expensive part (the IEM) you can keep using for as long a…

Ok, what if you do mind IEMs?

I think he is referring to In-Ear Monitors.

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Post by jdmichal »

kbenson wrote: post #93
ecomhacker wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of a bluetooth toothbrush I just bought that requires my location to be enabled to change the settings via the oral b app which is required since this model has less buttons than others. The reason why I bought a bluetooth toothbrush was for a wireless hardware clock, brushing timer, and ranking system which also really doesn't work correctly even with the app.

> change the settings via the oral b app which is required since this model has less buttons than others. I find it disturbing that we're moving to an era where even simple devices require the equivalent of a sonic screwdriver to make work. I really, really wish we had a generic discovery, configuration and reporting protocol (like HTML forms but much more rigid and no styling) for configuring bluetooth devices that…

You mean like SNMP?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Network_Management_Prot...

Re: Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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Post by JamesSwift »

ohstopitu wrote: post #74

wow! I own a couple of these headsets, and while I've never used the app (I don't feel the need to install an app for an headphone device thank you very much), I'm disappointed in Bose. Does anyone know any other headphone manufacturer that's got as good a sound + build quality as Bose?

MKBHD (https://www.youtube.com/user/marquesbrownlee) has some really good, honest reviews of various consumer products. There is also The Wirecutter (http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/) for more of a consolidated overview.

Re: Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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Post by jdmichal »

draugadrotten wrote: post #122

I live in Europe. Next year I and all other Europeans should be able to make a GDPR request for information to Bose and, at no cost, get a complete copy of all information Bose keeps on me. https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/data-protection-reform/...

I wonder if the UK will keep that particular EU regulation after its exit...
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