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But then while listening to the video, I realized the recording sounded a lot like what I would hear when my parents beat my siblings/myself as kids for doing something wrong.
This made me wonder:
Is hitting your kids any less morally despicable than hitting your spouse?
Why does such a large section of society think it's OK to hit your kids and not your spouse?
Curious to hear what other people think.
Wife beating is considered acceptable in certain traditions, as long as you don't hit her in the face.
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Couples mostly fight over inane things. I only read 1/2 the article but it sounds like they're both quite sick. Him a seemingly sociopath (as many CEOs are) and her some kind of dependence disorder (codependence?) . Why in the world would she bail out someone who has abused her? They both need treatment.
No, she needs help. He needs to get tossed in jail.
Reading this made me want to throw up. Absolutely horrible. But then while listening to the video, I realized the recording sounded a lot like what I would hear when my parents beat my siblings/myself as kids for doing something wrong. This made me wonder: Is hitting your kids any less morally despicable than hitting your spouse? Why does such a large section of society think it's OK to hit your kids and not your spo…
The relationship to a spouse is fundamentally different. In this country, marriage is a union of two equals. You do not give up the legal autonomy granted to you at 18 just because you got married.
Most people would find it weird or creepy to find you were using other kinds of punishment on your spouse, even punishments that are uncontroversial when used on children, just because this implies that you are not respecting your spouse as an equal, but instead treating him or her as a child.
Reading this made me want to throw up. Absolutely horrible. But then while listening to the video, I realized the recording sounded a lot like what I would hear when my parents beat my siblings/myself as kids for doing something wrong. This made me wonder: Is hitting your kids any less morally despicable than hitting your spouse? Why does such a large section of society think it's OK to hit your kids and not your spo…
Regardless of your stance on corporal punishment, a parent is in a position of authority over, and responsible for training their children. The relationship between a parent and child is ideally a loving relationship, but it is not a relationship of equals. The parent, culturally and legally, is expected to make decisions in the child's best interest, even, sometimes, when the child disagrees. A child is not an adult…
For example, teacher/student, employee/boss.
After thinking about it more, one rationalization is that we assume it's for the kids' greater good and kids don't know what's best for them while adults do. Of course, one must believe corporal punishment is an effective way to train behavior and the purpose when used is truly to improve the kid's well being.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regardless of your stance on corporal punishment, a parent is in a position of authority over, and responsible for training their children. The relationship between a parent and child is ideally a loving relationship, but it is not a relationship of equals. The parent, culturally and legally, is expected to make decisions in the child's best interest, even, sometimes, when the child disagrees. A child is not an adult…
Playing devil's advocate, there are a number of real world examples of relationships with power, authority, equality differentials where we'd still not be comfortable with corporal punishment. For example, teacher/student, employee/boss. After thinking about it more, one rationalization is that we assume it's for the kids' greater good and kids don't know what's best for them while adults do. Of course, one must beli…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regardless of your stance on corporal punishment, a parent is in a position of authority over, and responsible for training their children. The relationship between a parent and child is ideally a loving relationship, but it is not a relationship of equals. The parent, culturally and legally, is expected to make decisions in the child's best interest, even, sometimes, when the child disagrees. A child is not an adult…
Playing devil's advocate, there are a number of real world examples of relationships with power, authority, equality differentials where we'd still not be comfortable with corporal punishment. For example, teacher/student, employee/boss. After thinking about it more, one rationalization is that we assume it's for the kids' greater good and kids don't know what's best for them while adults do. Of course, one must beli…
Wife beating is considered acceptable in certain traditions, as long as you don't hit her in the face.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regardless of your stance on corporal punishment, a parent is in a position of authority over, and responsible for training their children. The relationship between a parent and child is ideally a loving relationship, but it is not a relationship of equals. The parent, culturally and legally, is expected to make decisions in the child's best interest, even, sometimes, when the child disagrees. A child is not an adult…
Playing devil's advocate, there are a number of real world examples of relationships with power, authority, equality differentials where we'd still not be comfortable with corporal punishment. For example, teacher/student, employee/boss. After thinking about it more, one rationalization is that we assume it's for the kids' greater good and kids don't know what's best for them while adults do. Of course, one must beli…
The only reason corporal punishment was used is because it causes an immediate response but that is one driven by fear. It is control by violence which is by definition a form of domestic violence. As a society we only accept it now in situations by law enforcement. But even then that is limited acceptance (for example in the United airlines incident). As a simple example, you don't teach someone to not hit someone by hitting them. Maybe that model was effective as animals but as humans we have much more powerful behavior modification techniques.
For example, the only thing that really works to modify behavior and generate long term compliance is positive reinforcement. The science is clear. Kids live in the moment. Reward the behavior you want and ignore the behavior you don't. This works surprisingly well with adults as well.
Wife beating is considered acceptable in certain traditions, as long as you don't hit her in the face.
Murdering people is considered acceptable by Islamic extremists, as long as they are non-believers.