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UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Calling an election is dark and scary times?

Democracy is about more than one party winning a popular vote.

This is the last chance the UK has to avoid fascism.

I wish that was hyperbole. But I really don't think it is.

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I knew I should have put a bet on this, we were never going to leave Europe. Which ever parties manifesto says stay in Europe will win - end of story.

You gotta get out of that echo chamber mate.

Maybe he does, but at 48% of those who voted it's not much of an echo chamber.

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In my fantasy of UK politics, the centre and centre-left parties would form an opposition coalition ahead of the poll, proposing some radical reforms like PR, as well as some socially progressive policies like reigning in the surveillance state, thoroughly reviewing the drug laws, reviewing basic income as an idea and instituting some sort of evidence-basis mandate for law-making.

I realise this is a pipe-dream, however.

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A lot of that grass roots support is young & as a result has much less weight for voting, unfortunately.

Unless older people's votes get counted twice, how does the young have less weight for voting? As an outsider, the news that got to me was that older people simply showed up to vote (and others didn't).

I'm thinking of the fact that there's far more 'older' people, young people are less likely to vote & young people also captures people below the voting age.

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Constituencies overwhelmingly voted to leave though.

Sure, but many who voted never expected them to actually win and saw it as a protest vote. A lot of people claimed they regretted voting brexit after it became clear the brexit camp actually won. Now brexit has been initiated and it's becoming clear what the consequences are many more people are getting cold feet.

A lot of people claimed they regretted voting brexit after it became clear the brexit camp actually won.

This is mostly just wishful thinking on the part of the Remain side. Opinion polls have pretty consistently shown very little change in overall sentiment on Brexit. In many cases they seem to have observed marginally more regret among Leave voters than Remain voters, but the numbers were small enough in both cases that it probably wouldn't have affected the referendum result itself, and surely far too small to have much effect on a general election result.

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My quick (and probably off) analysis: Tories found this timing to be the best one to call an election based on the disarray of UKIP and Labour. Tories are again playing politics, they want to get a good slice of UKIP vote and keep Labour at the current level at best. I believe the only real alternative to another May government is for Lib Dems, Labour, Green, to make a coalition against this Tory initiative. Otherwise, should be an easy win for May.

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I wonder (I'm not from UK), is there really zero chance of someone from Labour to challenge Corbyn (someone more moderate/center leaning) and rally the pro-EU voters ?

The Labour Party establishment have tried to dethrone Corbyn before and failed. He's an odd case. He commands a lot of influence among Labour members and to some extent the unions (who have significant ties to and influence on the Labour Party here). This makes him more-or-less untouchable as party leader. However, he's loathed by most of the party's current MPs, who are politicians and know he's going to be a liabil…

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"Simple" explanation is this: - May isn't going to lose to Corbyn - May has a slim majority, meaning she has to negotiate with people within the Conservative Party who might not agree with her on the Brexit terms. - She'll likely get a larger majority, so it makes it easier to deal with the rebels. - For Corbyn, it's interesting. He might be facing another leadership challenge if polls keep looking crap. - He wants t…

From the Guardian:

30m ago 11:44 Corbyn confirms Labour will vote for early election

Jeremy Corbyn has put out this statement about Theresa May’s announcement.

I welcome the prime minister’s decision to give the British people the chance to vote for a government that will put the interests of the majority first.

Labour will be offering the country an effective alternative to a government that has failed to rebuild the economy, delivered falling living standards and damaging cuts to our schools and NHS.

In the last couple of weeks, Labour has set out policies that offer a clear and credible choice for the country. We look forward to showing how Labour will stand up for the people of Britain. Labour confirms it will vote for early election.

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The Labour Party establishment have tried to dethrone Corbyn before and failed. He's an odd case. He commands a lot of influence among Labour members and to some extent the unions (who have significant ties to and influence on the Labour Party here). This makes him more-or-less untouchable as party leader. However, he's loathed by most of the party's current MPs, who are politicians and know he's going to be a liabil…

"almost all of his MPs openly rebel" No wonder - I suspect a lot of them will be out of a job soon.

But not for at least three years unless there is an early election...

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Vote Lib Dem. Seriously. I am a candidate in very north london, we're all organised for this possibility.

No thanks. It was your austerity cuts that created the favourable climate for Brexit in the first place.

Haven't seen a party opposed to austerity in a long, long time.

I'll probably be voting short term "stop this madness"

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