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UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Re: UK Prime Minister Theresa May announces intention to hold general election

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Vote Lib Dem. Seriously. I am a candidate in very north london, we're all organised for this possibility.

Yeah, 'cause you did such a sterling job last time?

Yeah they did, in my eyes they did a great job stopping Tories doing too much damage. I'm also one who was affected by their tuition u-turn also but I decided to get over it.

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I knew I should have put a bet on this, we were never going to leave Europe. Which ever parties manifesto says stay in Europe will win - end of story.

Constituencies overwhelmingly voted to leave though.

Sure, but many who voted never expected them to actually win and saw it as a protest vote. A lot of people claimed they regretted voting brexit after it became clear the brexit camp actually won. Now brexit has been initiated and it's becoming clear what the consequences are many more people are getting cold feet.

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Smart timing from May - this will be devastating for Corbyn.

Current polling: CON 43, LAB 25 [1]

Conservatives won the 2015 Election polling at 34% [2].

[1] https://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9828

[2] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/UK_opini...

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I knew I should have put a bet on this, we were never going to leave Europe. Which ever parties manifesto says stay in Europe will win - end of story.

She would have never of called if she thought she wasn't going to win. This is basically to get a higher majority in the commons, so things can go through unimpeded.

To be fair, she wouldn't be the first PM in recent history to call a vote they were sure they'd win and live to regret it.

The real danger for her is presumably that MPs don't give her the mandate to hold the election at all, which would potentially mean we get yet another new and unelected PM.

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Actually this is just good business for the Tories, and I've long expected it. The opposition is in disarray under Corbyn, and our prime minister has never won an election. This is as easy a victory as Theresa May will ever be able to bank on, and legitimises her leadership in the eyes of a large section of the public. She can also claim (maybe rightly so) that she has the undisputed majority support of the public fo…

who's "we"? I'd be pretty happy about an election legitimising May's leadership. If labour wants to become more competitive they should stop nominating far-left leaders.

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I wonder (I'm not from UK), is there really zero chance of someone from Labour to challenge Corbyn (someone more moderate/center leaning) and rally the pro-EU voters ?

The Labour Party establishment have tried to dethrone Corbyn before and failed. He's an odd case. He commands a lot of influence among Labour members and to some extent the unions (who have significant ties to and influence on the Labour Party here). This makes him more-or-less untouchable as party leader. However, he's loathed by most of the party's current MPs, who are politicians and know he's going to be a liabil…

>who are politicians and know he's going to be a liability at election time

I daresay that it's them who are making the party a liability. They've made the Labour Party seem completely ridiculous - and that's not Corbyn's fault.

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post #53

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Vote Lib Dem. Seriously. I am a candidate in very north london, we're all organised for this possibility.

Yeah, 'cause you did such a sterling job last time?

Libdems lost the trust of students everywhere. I like core libdem ideas on land but sadly they were led by empty suits like Clegg and Cable. Anyhow, under first past the post your vote means nothing. Kneel before your boomer overlords, who will be bribed and who will enslave their own kids for their gain.

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Pretty much, Corbyn has gathered a lot of grass roots support but will fail to appeal to the wider electorate. I suspect there is a good chance that Labour in the rest of the UK will implode after this election in the same way that it has collapsed in Scotland (although I'm not clear who voters would transfer their loyalties to as they have here in Scotland where the SNP now dominates).

A lot of that grass roots support is young & as a result has much less weight for voting, unfortunately.

Unless older people's votes get counted twice, how does the young have less weight for voting?

As an outsider, the news that got to me was that older people simply showed up to vote (and others didn't).

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Actually this is just good business for the Tories, and I've long expected it. The opposition is in disarray under Corbyn, and our prime minister has never won an election. This is as easy a victory as Theresa May will ever be able to bank on, and legitimises her leadership in the eyes of a large section of the public. She can also claim (maybe rightly so) that she has the undisputed majority support of the public fo…

It also negates the 'Theresa doesn't have a mandate, no one voted for her' argument.

This is similar to the election in Australia just after Julia Gillard took power from Kevin Rudd. Basically to quash the people complaining that she didn't get voted in and just usurped power instead.
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