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Re: Safari 5

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I work for a large newspaper, and we're not very amused by the built-in "Reader" (removes ads and crud, like Readability): http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html ... for users, it looks like a good feature though.

I'm afraid people will have to deal with the fact that it's the user who controls the browser. You can't just shove stuff down your users' throats — it's their browser.

I agree! :-)

Re: Safari 5

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ARGH !!! It DELETED my Safari 4 even when I put it into another directory ??!!

Who deletes something automatically without a warning/permission these days?

Any sign of a portable/virtualized version yet? Or too soon?

Re: Safari 5

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I work for a large newspaper, and we're not very amused by the built-in "Reader" (removes ads and crud, like Readability): http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html ... for users, it looks like a good feature though.

I have been spending less time on 'large newspaper' sites lately because I find it annoying that the text columns are becoming narrower and the ad columns multiplying to their right.

If CPM rates are dropping from your advertisers, maybe its because you are cramming too many ads in!

Re: Safari 5

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I understand it right, the ads are displayed initially and are still in the background when reader is on. If an ad is interesting enough, the user would still see and click it.

There's an annoying habit of linking to the print version of articles, regardless of the look of the site and article, though.

Because non-print versions kinda blow. Spanning a single article over 10 pages with a few dozen words per page just so you can get 10 times the ad impression is not acceptable.

Re: Safari 5

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ARGH !!! It DELETED my Safari 4 even when I put it into another directory ??!! Who deletes something automatically without a warning/permission these days? Any sign of a portable/virtualized version yet? Or too soon?

> Who deletes something without a warning/permission in this age?

Without warning or permission? You asked it to upgrade your Safari installation, it upgraded from 4 to 5, what were you expecting exactly?

Re: Safari 5

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ARGH !!! It DELETED my Safari 4 even when I put it into another directory ??!! Who deletes something automatically without a warning/permission these days? Any sign of a portable/virtualized version yet? Or too soon?

> Who deletes something without a warning/permission in this age? Without warning or permission? You asked it to upgrade your Safari installation, it upgraded from 4 to 5, what were you expecting exactly?

No, I told it to install into another directory.

I specifically changed the folder and it confirmed it.

Son-of-a-bee that makes me mad.

Re: Safari 5

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I find it odd I had to restart after upgrading a browser in OSX, reminds me of that old time. In Windows the upgrade went without a restart. Edit: Yes, talking about Safari only.

In what Windows did the upgrading go without a restart? Firefox, maybe. But upgrading the MS COM component responsible for drawing shadows on a drop down menu in some obscure MS library for accessing DAO databases ALWAYS requires a restart. I uninstalled ZoneAlarm a few days ago and clicked "OK" as I went through the motions .. great, now the machine is rebooting and I lost whatever the fuck I was doing. Compare that…

Upgraded Safari on an XP machine this morning, from 4 to 5, and no restart was required. Also noticed that Apple have made the 'Install iTunes and friends' option opt-in now, which is nice

Re: Safari 5

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I work for a large newspaper, and we're not very amused by the built-in "Reader" (removes ads and crud, like Readability): http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html ... for users, it looks like a good feature though.

It also automagically displays the text of the article in one page, despite the obnoxious effort of a site to require you to click through to multiple pages to read a single article.

As far as I can tell, the point of splitting an article into more than one page was just more ad exposure. So it's a double whammy: graying out and background the ads, and decreasing the number of ad-ridden pages one needs to read the article. Awesome in my book.

Re: Safari 5

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I work for a large newspaper, and we're not very amused by the built-in "Reader" (removes ads and crud, like Readability): http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html ... for users, it looks like a good feature though.

I'm afraid people will have to deal with the fact that it's the user who controls the browser. You can't just shove stuff down your users' throats — it's their browser.

I also want to present the counter viewppoint - http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/03/why-ad-blocking...

Newspapers were dying because nobody wanted to pay for news, which they could get for free at Google News. Newspapers were told to suck it up and instead move online - to an ad supported model. No more ads.

I dont think the newspapers are the bad guy here.

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