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Re: Safari 5
#2I work for a large newspaper, and we're not very amused by the built-in "Reader" (removes ads and crud, like Readability): http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html
... for users, it looks like a good feature though.
Re: Safari 5
#3I work for a large newspaper, and we're not very amused by the built-in "Reader" (removes ads and crud, like Readability): http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html ... for users, it looks like a good feature though.
If I understand it right, the ads are displayed initially and are still in the background when reader is on. If an ad is interesting enough, the user would still see and click it.
Re: Safari 5
#4I find it odd I had to restart after upgrading a browser in OSX, reminds me of that old time. In Windows the upgrade went without a restart.
Edit: Yes, talking about Safari only.
Re: Safari 5
#5I work for a large newspaper, and we're not very amused by the built-in "Reader" (removes ads and crud, like Readability): http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html ... for users, it looks like a good feature though.
I'm afraid people will have to deal with the fact that it's the user who controls the browser. You can't just shove stuff down your users' throats — it's their browser.
Re: Safari 5
#6I find it odd I had to restart after upgrading a browser in OSX, reminds me of that old time. In Windows the upgrade went without a restart. Edit: Yes, talking about Safari only.
In what Windows did the upgrading go without a restart? Firefox, maybe. But upgrading the MS COM component responsible for drawing shadows on a drop down menu in some obscure MS library for accessing DAO databases ALWAYS requires a restart.
I uninstalled ZoneAlarm a few days ago and clicked "OK" as I went through the motions .. great, now the machine is rebooting and I lost whatever the fuck I was doing.
Compare that to Linux where I was developing custom file system drivers. modprobe foo, and I had a foo driver looking at an intricate piece of chipod, rmmod and it's gone ..
Wax poetic all you want about OS stability, but Windows is the wrong muse to sing to wrt stability, and I say that typing on XP.
Re: Safari 5
#7I work for a large newspaper, and we're not very amused by the built-in "Reader" (removes ads and crud, like Readability): http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html ... for users, it looks like a good feature though.
If I understand it right, the ads are displayed initially and are still in the background when reader is on. If an ad is interesting enough, the user would still see and click it.
There's an annoying habit of linking to the print version of articles, regardless of the look of the site and article, though.
Re: Safari 5
#8I find it odd I had to restart after upgrading a browser in OSX, reminds me of that old time. In Windows the upgrade went without a restart. Edit: Yes, talking about Safari only.
In what Windows did the upgrading go without a restart? Firefox, maybe. But upgrading the MS COM component responsible for drawing shadows on a drop down menu in some obscure MS library for accessing DAO databases ALWAYS requires a restart. I uninstalled ZoneAlarm a few days ago and clicked "OK" as I went through the motions .. great, now the machine is rebooting and I lost whatever the fuck I was doing. Compare that…
I assume the comment referred to Safari 5 for Windows.
Re: Safari 5
#9I find it odd I had to restart after upgrading a browser in OSX, reminds me of that old time. In Windows the upgrade went without a restart. Edit: Yes, talking about Safari only.
You are not only upgrading Safari. You are upgrading Webkit as well! And it is used in many other apps, like iTunes. Webkit is very much integrated into OS X. That's why it needs to restart.
Re: Safari 5
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I understand it right, the ads are displayed initially and are still in the background when reader is on. If an ad is interesting enough, the user would still see and click it.
There's an annoying habit of linking to the print version of articles, regardless of the look of the site and article, though.
Well, Safari5 Reader's approach may make that feel less necessary - since one can easily click in and out of Reader-view.
And an advantage (as I test-drive it) is that turning the Reader-view on/off for a given article is almost instantaneous: whereas with Readability to move _out_ of Readability-View involves _reloading_ the entire page (which I find annoyingly slow on pages like TechCrunch, RWW, etc where there are tons of ads to be (re)loaded.
I think the Safari-Reader approach may increase time I spend with a full, ad-laden page open.