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Re: Switch Is Nintendo's 'Fastest Selling' System in History

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Post by josho » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:22 PM UTC

douche wrote: post #9

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #3

I'd argue this statistic is easy to manufacture when Nintendo console sales are generally artificially limited by their production rate. Is it that the Switch is the most immediately desirable system in Nintendo's history, or just that it's the most quickly produced one in history?

Possibly it's that the last Wii was such a dumpster fire, and people are desperate for a Nintendo console that is close to modern capabilities.

While playing the wii-u titles I don't recall ever saying 'this game would be more fun if only the graphics were better'.

The hit Nintendo took by selling an underpowered console was loosing 3rd party support, as it was reportedly too much effort for folks like EA to support a platform that was so far behind their other supported consoles.

I wonder if history will repeat with the next generation of xbox/ps around the corner. If switch sales continue at this pace, I suspect not.

Re: Switch Is Nintendo's 'Fastest Selling' System in History

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Post by bitshiffed » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:23 PM UTC

SimeVidas wrote: post #18

Nintendo has a real chance of dominating Christmas this year, if they get Mario Odyssey and Zelda DLC right. For that reason, the latter will be pure fan service, I think. Do we know already what AAA games will be released on PS and Xbox during that period?

"Zelda DLC"? Really? Even Zelda now? Ugh.

Re: Switch Is Nintendo's 'Fastest Selling' System in History

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Post by ZeroGravitas » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:25 PM UTC

RubenSandwich wrote: post #2

As the article alludes to this is in large part due to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Which has a higher than 100% attach rate on the Switch, which is simply amazing.

Though that game was also released for their previous console, which you think would take some level of pressure of the sales of the newer platform.

Re: Switch Is Nintendo's 'Fastest Selling' System in History

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Post by haswell » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:25 PM UTC

bitshiffed wrote: post #22

SimeVidas wrote: post #18

Nintendo has a real chance of dominating Christmas this year, if they get Mario Odyssey and Zelda DLC right. For that reason, the latter will be pure fan service, I think. Do we know already what AAA games will be released on PS and Xbox during that period?

"Zelda DLC"? Really? Even Zelda now? Ugh.

I don't think calling it DLC is fair. Back before the DLC craze, this would have simply been an "Expansion".

The core game is so good, so expansive, that it doesn't bother me in the slightest that there's upcoming "DLC". Don't get me wrong - I hate the trend in general, but in this case it's not a bad thing.

Edit: Ok, I realize that they even call it DLC on zelda.com, but my point still stands: these are expansions. The kind gamers used to get excited about.

Re: Switch Is Nintendo's 'Fastest Selling' System in History

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Post by slantyyz » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:28 PM UTC

_ph_ wrote: post #7

berberous wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are not interested in Zelda though, there is almost zero reason to spend the money on a Switch right now.

There are a couple of very nice third-party games available on the switch now too (Snipperclips are great!) and the updated Mario Cart is just a week away. But indeed, Zelda would be the main reason to get one right now.

But unlike the original Wii, there's no Wii Sports to get people who would normally not even buy a console to buy in.

Re: Switch Is Nintendo's 'Fastest Selling' System in History

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Post by pyi » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:29 PM UTC

johnchristopher wrote: post #19

PopsiclePete wrote: post #16

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The new Zelda is amazing. Not only the best Zelda game ever made, I think it's just one of the best 3rd person open-world adventure games ever made, for any system, period. Definitely a system seller. I'm interested in nothing else right now though - the rest of the available games seem like Indie shovel-ware or re-releases. Shovel Knight. Come on, that's like 2 years old by now. I'll still buy every Nintendo game th…

I was ready to throw money at it until a friend of mine told me I had to farm some sticks to get weapons because it wears out. Can you confirm ?

Not sure what your friend is doing, since weapons are extremely plentiful and disposable. You're also encouraged to find other ways of killing enemies, usually by using your Sheikah Slate powers to manipulate the environment to kill monsters. Think of the weapons as an analogue to ammo in a shooter.

Re: Switch Is Nintendo's 'Fastest Selling' System in History

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Post by Jasper_ » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:31 PM UTC

johnchristopher wrote: post #19

PopsiclePete wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new Zelda is amazing. Not only the best Zelda game ever made, I think it's just one of the best 3rd person open-world adventure games ever made, for any system, period. Definitely a system seller. I'm interested in nothing else right now though - the rest of the available games seem like Indie shovel-ware or re-releases. Shovel Knight. Come on, that's like 2 years old by now. I'll still buy every Nintendo game th…

I was ready to throw money at it until a friend of mine told me I had to farm some sticks to get weapons because it wears out. Can you confirm ?

There is a weapon durability system, but it's actually a super well-designed thing to keep the pace of the game active and frantic. Basically, it's the game's way of making sure you experiment and play around with new weapon types, give you more of an interplay during combat by picking up enemy weapons and using it against them, and giving you overpowered weapons without letting you just find "the best weapon" and keep it forever.

At this stage in my playthrough, I often have to explicitly toss out weapons because I have too many -- very rarely do I run out of weapons and have to farm.

Re: Switch Is Nintendo's 'Fastest Selling' System in History

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Post by Kroniker » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:33 PM UTC

johnchristopher wrote: post #19

PopsiclePete wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new Zelda is amazing. Not only the best Zelda game ever made, I think it's just one of the best 3rd person open-world adventure games ever made, for any system, period. Definitely a system seller. I'm interested in nothing else right now though - the rest of the available games seem like Indie shovel-ware or re-releases. Shovel Knight. Come on, that's like 2 years old by now. I'll still buy every Nintendo game th…

I was ready to throw money at it until a friend of mine told me I had to farm some sticks to get weapons because it wears out. Can you confirm ?

That isn't true at all. You -can- use sticks to hit things, but they are terrible weapons and I never used them outside of the tutorial zone.

Weapons are dropped off of almost every enemy, and were never a problem to get, though there is a fairly high churn rate- most weapons have like 50 strikes in them (maybe 5 battles) before they break. There are a number of weapons with significantly more than that though (Zora's Diamond spear is like 300 iirc)

I never had to farm anything in that game though.

Re: Switch Is Nintendo's 'Fastest Selling' System in History

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Post by MBCook » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:34 PM UTC

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #15

berberous wrote: post #4

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If you are not interested in Zelda though, there is almost zero reason to spend the money on a Switch right now.

That's my concern for the Christmas period. A lot of Nintendo fans are early adopters, that's why they're buying a console with one significant game in March. For the general public they need to have more on offer than that. Here are new AAA games which we are assured will be out by Christmas: Zelda Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Skylanders, NBA 2K18, Arms, Splatoon 2. There's tons of indie names (e.g. Shov…

Zelda is (supposed to be) amazing (haven't played it), Mario Kart 8 was amazing, and Splatoon was amazing (assuming sequel will be).

TONS of gamers didn't get to play any of them because the WiiU sold so poorly, so for a great many people they're 'new' games and worth buying the system for.

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Post by piptastic » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:35 PM UTC

johnchristopher wrote: post #19

PopsiclePete wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new Zelda is amazing. Not only the best Zelda game ever made, I think it's just one of the best 3rd person open-world adventure games ever made, for any system, period. Definitely a system seller. I'm interested in nothing else right now though - the rest of the available games seem like Indie shovel-ware or re-releases. Shovel Knight. Come on, that's like 2 years old by now. I'll still buy every Nintendo game th…

I was ready to throw money at it until a friend of mine told me I had to farm some sticks to get weapons because it wears out. Can you confirm ?

Weapons wear out. I guess you might need to farm (for 30 seconds) some sticks very early on just in case.

But now I have 4 or 5 more weapon slots than I started with and 3 additional ones elsewhere. And they are all full of different weapons. Now the hard part is figuring out which ones to keep when I come across new weapons, so I'm usually happy when something breaks because it takes the decision away :p