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Re: Tanium is facing employee unrest and an executive exodus

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Post by notacoward » Sun, Apr 16, 2017, 4:06 AM UTC

leroy_masochist wrote: post #74

Isn't a father-mother-son leadership team a massive red flag when choosing what company to work for? I mean, whether it's a car dealership or a tech startup, when you have family pride all mixed up in company culture it really tends to be a shitty place to work. If anyone has any examples of where this type of setup has actually worked out well, would love to know of one.

There's a funny thing about that. Quite a few companies have been financially successful with that model, but a disproportionate number of them seem to be morally challenged. One of the first lists I was able to find included Wal-Mart, Cargill, and Koch as three of the top four. Price fixing, influence peddling, and several examples of private profit at public expense. I kind of don't care how much money they make, or how much I might make by going there. I still wouldn't touch them with a ten-foot pole.

Re: Tanium is facing employee unrest and an executive exodus

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Post by ascendantlogic » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 12:59 PM UTC

ForHackernews wrote: post #85

ascendantlogic wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Walking out instantly is a romantic idea for people who either have fat bank accounts to fall back on or little-to-no responsibility outside of work to worry about. For the rest of us something like that is indeed a reason to immediately seek other employment, but just because you don't walk out instantly doesn't mean you are supporting that behavior.

You mean people like extremely well-paid developers with in-demand skills who get contacted by recruiters multiple times a week?

I am all of those things and I still can't just stand up and walk out. I have a wife, 2 kids and a house payment to think about. Prudence demands that I line up future employment before giving my current employer the finger.

Re: Tanium is facing employee unrest and an executive exodus

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Post by Balgair » Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 4:06 PM UTC

papabrown wrote: post #87

Balgair wrote: post #80

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Now, I read these accounts and I wonder, if this is how businesses are run, even a small fraction of them, how are they in business at all? Like, it seems 'business' is really forgiving in terms of staying alive, like turning a profit must be really easy if these morons can do it and stay afloat for any length of time. But you go on /r/entrepreneur or some threads on HN and it is made out to be just a real drag and r…

I think you might be looking at it from the wrong angle. Some of the most morally bankrupt people I've ever met are crazy intelligent. You seem to equate being a sociopath with being a moron and that is more often than not a poor assumption. The other aspect that I think you're overlooking is that people who are wired like this are often incredibly driven people. Sure, someone on /r/entrepreneur might be willing to g…

Oh no, I agree, being an asshole and being smart are independent variables, it's a roll of the genetic dice. I meant: how are these folks who are both stupid and an asshole still kicking around?