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Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by sjwright »

jaredklewis wrote: post #149
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #39

In some markets, it is more about getting it right than getting in at the right time. We've seen many carcasses of products that were ahead of their time, not because they were bad ideas but because they were not formulated for mass adoption. Apple's own Newton is one example. It took the iPhone formulation to make the product features successful in the market. A more recent example is the telepresence robot. Many en…

I think it's always good to include iTunes Ping in any list of bad apple products.

Sure, though that was a fairly low-grade failure. An inexpensive, unremarkable failure for both Apple and consumers.

Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by driverdan »

jacquesm wrote: post #76
tsomctl wrote: post #62

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Good thing California requires license plates on the front of vehicles. That way, if the bicyclist was hurt/killed, the video recorded by the self driving car would show your friend was the one liable.

I'm not sure that's correct. The self driving car should have stayed in its lane because an accident between two cars is preferable to an accident between a cyclist and a car, especially if the cyclist is not otherwise involved. Self driving cars should protect the weaker traffic participants, not use their space as a 'get out of the way' option if that space is occupied.

Perhaps the car calculated that it could safely enter the bike lane. It doesn't matter if it was close.

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Post by pvg »

gyc wrote: post #90
pvg wrote: post #63

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It is. What they spend most of their time operating are the doors, though.

Although it wasn't that long ago when BART workers went on strike, replacement workers (former BART operators) stepped in to operate the trains, and then promptly ran over and killed two workers performing track maintenance.

It also didn't really have anything to do with the train operators.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/BART-Responds-to-NTSB-R...

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Post by Animats »

mikerathbun wrote: post #139

So far all the articles I have seen are about Apple experimenting with autonomous technology and most people assume that they are also building an electric vehicle. Those are two very different and challenging projects. I have been an Apple user since 2000 and a Tesla driver for four months and I don't see the current Apple being able to pull off an entire new car platform like that. This isn't a "one more thing" kin…

Those are two very different and challenging projects.

Exactly. Some self-driving projects have used electric or hybrid cars because they usually have electric power steering, which is easy to control by computer. But the technologies are unrelated.

Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by Animats »

ziikutv wrote: post #59

Heres a question, I know a lot of companies are investing their time/money into working on self-driving cars.. but from what I see, a lot of the cars use the same sensor. LIDAR and cameras being the main sensors. Of course, we have already seen Tesla perform well with these sensors. However, my question: Is/Was this industry only held back by sensing? edit: Restructure paragraph Regards,

For testing purposes, today's clunky rotating LIDAR units are OK. For deployment, something better will be needed. That's coming along well, but due to lack of a market, nobody is producing in volume yet. I'd bet on Continental, the auto parts company, which is using flash LIDAR technology from Advanced Scientific Concepts.[1] That's known to work well, and ASC has been selling it to DoD successfully. Space-X also uses their units for docking the Dragon spacecraft.

Quanergy has been in "fake it til' you make it" mode for a year now; they announced an impressive product 14 months ago and didn't ship. Their web site looks as if they're shipping, but they're not. Now they're trying to get in on the Trump border wall security business.[2]

[1] http://continental-automated-driving.com/Navigation/Enablers... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2017/03/24/silicon-...

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Post by marze »

chrismealy wrote: post #138
legolas2412 wrote: post #135

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I've been parroting this on every self driving thread. I finally found one person who agrees with my thinking that driving is as hard as general AI. Why is this idea so opposed by everyone?

At least we have each other. Honestly, I am completely baffled that people who write software think self-driving cars are just around the corner. At this point I think it's basically a futurist cult.

99% of situations are the "easy" part. It is the last 1% that will take a long time. Snow. Rain. Missing headlight. Etc.

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chrismealy wrote: post #138
legolas2412 wrote: post #135

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I've been parroting this on every self driving thread. I finally found one person who agrees with my thinking that driving is as hard as general AI. Why is this idea so opposed by everyone?

At least we have each other. Honestly, I am completely baffled that people who write software think self-driving cars are just around the corner. At this point I think it's basically a futurist cult.

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Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by millstone »

driverdan wrote: post #150
jaredklewis wrote: post #149

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I think it's always good to include iTunes Ping in any list of bad apple products.

iTunes itself is a bad Apple product. Ping was just one bad part.

It's worth pointing out that the iTunes Music Store was revolutionary for its time. It was the first online music store that was legal, easy to use, and sold popular songs.

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Post by millstone »

MBCook wrote: post #145
peregrine wrote: post #126

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I've got just the apple support document for you! https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205225 If your TV supports HDMI features you will only ever need one remote.

Sadly there's no way to disable having it power the TV off without also disabling the ability to control the TVs volume.

If you haven't yet, check your TV settings. My Samsung has a buried option "Auto Turn Off" under HDMI. Disabling this prevents the AppleTV from turning off the TV.
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