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Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by kavok »

shouldbworking wrote: post #7

Does anyone care that regulatory realities will prevent driverless cars from ever carrying human passengers? Planes and trains have been driving themselves for many years but they still have human pilots. The human need for somebody to blame is stronger than market forces trying to eliminate human drivers

What about security concerns? I assume self driving cars could be made to remotely shut down or report tampering. With high profile terrorist attacks using vehicles it will become attractive for safety.

Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by andai »

username223 wrote: post #18
notliketherest wrote: post #9

Is it just me, or have folks living in the bay area noticed a huge increase in the number of "self driving" cars driving around? I've even seen a minivan with what looked to be a hastly assembled lidar driving around Sunnyvale. The space seems to be really heating up.

It's tempting to strap random hardware to your roof to make other drivers fear you and give you more space.

hahahaha

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Post by Steko »

shouldbworking wrote: post #7

Does anyone care that regulatory realities will prevent driverless cars from ever carrying human passengers? Planes and trains have been driving themselves for many years but they still have human pilots. The human need for somebody to blame is stronger than market forces trying to eliminate human drivers

They said the same thing about elevators.

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Post by andai »

kavok wrote: post #21
shouldbworking wrote: post #7

Does anyone care that regulatory realities will prevent driverless cars from ever carrying human passengers? Planes and trains have been driving themselves for many years but they still have human pilots. The human need for somebody to blame is stronger than market forces trying to eliminate human drivers

What about security concerns? I assume self driving cars could be made to remotely shut down or report tampering. With high profile terrorist attacks using vehicles it will become attractive for safety.

Wait, you mean self-driving / remote control is good for security?

> "We can disable the ignition but not while you're driving," Melanie Boudreau, a spokesperson at IMETRIK, a Canadian maker of starter interrupt devices that run around $100 each, told Fortune. "We don't want to kill you."

Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by andai »

BillinghamJ wrote: post #10
shouldbworking wrote: post #7

Does anyone care that regulatory realities will prevent driverless cars from ever carrying human passengers? Planes and trains have been driving themselves for many years but they still have human pilots. The human need for somebody to blame is stronger than market forces trying to eliminate human drivers

Do you have anything meaningful to back up your point? Any sources? Anyone else who agrees?

I agree!

Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by salimmadjd »

dcwca wrote: post #11
salimmadjd wrote: post #8

Of all the SV tech giants (obviously Tesla excluded), Apple has the best DNA to build cars. They know how manufacture in scale. They know how build a vertical product. They have the cash to do it and they have a strong brand. But most importantly, if the world moves to a car-sharing car-hailing model of autonomous cars. Ultimately, it becomes a consumer mobile play. This is where both Google and Apple own that experi…

> Apple has the best DNA to build cars. They know how to manufacture in scale. Something tells me shipping your phones off to be built by other people in China and building your own auto assembly factories from scratch are two completely separate things.

Take the precision by which apple makes watches, laptops or iPhones. They can scale the size up and with the same precision margins you'll get the car parts. You get BMW or someone else to source you the electric motor. And you just need to manufacture the body the interior part and put in your software. Obviously it's a lot more complex than this. But Apple could easily hire 10-20 people from car industry to fill the missing gap and get there in 5-6 years.

Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by bobsil1 »

notliketherest wrote: post #9

Is it just me, or have folks living in the bay area noticed a huge increase in the number of "self driving" cars driving around? I've even seen a minivan with what looked to be a hastly assembled lidar driving around Sunnyvale. The space seems to be really heating up.

Yep, seeing all kinds of redneck camera mods.

Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by icanhackit »

chrismealy wrote: post #20

Apple decided making wifi hardware was too hard, but they can make cars?

My guess: they saw a flooded market with no brand loyalty because its a box that sits unnoticed in an office or living room and said "We can leave the scraps for Linksys and TP-Link" then saw Tesla's margins and said "Yeah, that looks nice."

Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by dilap »

username223 wrote: post #18
notliketherest wrote: post #9

Is it just me, or have folks living in the bay area noticed a huge increase in the number of "self driving" cars driving around? I've even seen a minivan with what looked to be a hastly assembled lidar driving around Sunnyvale. The space seems to be really heating up.

It's tempting to strap random hardware to your roof to make other drivers fear you and give you more space.

i see them all the time skating, and they are already far less scary than normal drivers :)

Re: Apple receives permit in California to test self-driving cars

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Post by Scramblejams »

therobot24 wrote: post #16
salimmadjd wrote: post #8

Of all the SV tech giants (obviously Tesla excluded), Apple has the best DNA to build cars. They know how manufacture in scale. They know how build a vertical product. They have the cash to do it and they have a strong brand. But most importantly, if the world moves to a car-sharing car-hailing model of autonomous cars. Ultimately, it becomes a consumer mobile play. This is where both Google and Apple own that experi…

> Of all the SV tech giants (obviously Tesla excluded), Apple has the best DNA to build cars. whoa...chill out on the kool-aid

Lotsa downvotes on that guy. So who's got better DNA and why? Genuinely curious.
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