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Princeton’s Ad-Blocker May Put an End to the Ad-Blocking Arms Race

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Re: Princeton’s Ad-Blocker May Put an End to the Ad-Blocking Arms Race

#31
If anyone want's the source of the proof of concept extension[1] here's a link to get it. Just use wget

https://clients2.google.com/service/update2/crx?response=red...

You should just be able to unzip it.

[1]:https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/perceptual-ad-bloc...

Re: Princeton’s Ad-Blocker May Put an End to the Ad-Blocking Arms Race

#32
"A favorable legal climate and the existence of browsers friendly toward ad-blocking extensions are two key factors that may tip the scales toward users."

On the technical side, Google can just close up its browser, prevent ad-blocking malware, require only compliant browsers to connect to its site, and all sites that depend on advertising dollars can jump on board.

Unless they decide to simply change the regulations, which doesn't take the same investment in time, development, and bad PR.

Once faced with having to pay for the internet again, people will be fine with either of those options.

Re: Princeton’s Ad-Blocker May Put an End to the Ad-Blocking Arms Race

#33
post #31

If anyone want's the source of the proof of concept extension[1] here's a link to get it. Just use wget https://clients2.google.com/service/update2/crx?response=red... You should just be able to unzip it. [1]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/perceptual-ad-bloc...

Or you could add some fangs to it yourself[1] by forking it...

1: https://github.com/citp/ad-blocking/tree/master/perceptual-a...

Re: Princeton’s Ad-Blocker May Put an End to the Ad-Blocking Arms Race

#34

This is not the end of the arms race. At some point we will have AI designing and AI delivering ads, and while we may have AI designed to prevent us from having to watch ads we don't want we will also have AI that watches everything, gathering and filtering information that is too much for us to handle but tuned to our needs since it's "our AI". Then the race will be that one AI wants to trick the consumer AI into gi…

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Re: Princeton’s Ad-Blocker May Put an End to the Ad-Blocking Arms Race

#35

What would a post-ad-supported web looks like? Only selling user data without a way to use it to target ads? Consumer software that isn't free? Sock puppet marketing run rampant? It would sure be a different world.

> What would a post-ad-supported web looks like? Probably a lot like the pre-ad-supported web.

Gopher!

Re: Princeton’s Ad-Blocker May Put an End to the Ad-Blocking Arms Race

#36
The article puts a significant emphasis on the idea that bulletproof ad-blocking technology, assuming that's what this turns out to be in practice, will work long-term becuase of legal restrictions imposed by the FTC. If Google, Facebook, or other multi-billion dollar entities detect an existential threat arising from this or any other technology, rest assured that the laws will change as quickly as is necessary to keep them happy. Lobbyists will be paid, and donations will be made. Anti-ad-blocking laws will be introduced, or the FTC's ad identification restrictions will be relaxed. Ads aren't going anywhere, and neither are advertisers.

Re: Princeton’s Ad-Blocker May Put an End to the Ad-Blocking Arms Race

#38

This is not the end of the arms race. At some point we will have AI designing and AI delivering ads, and while we may have AI designed to prevent us from having to watch ads we don't want we will also have AI that watches everything, gathering and filtering information that is too much for us to handle but tuned to our needs since it's "our AI". Then the race will be that one AI wants to trick the consumer AI into gi…

Check out "General Adversarial Networks". It's basically training a two-part AI via an arms race; one part is trying to fake out the other, the other is trying to detect the fake.

Re: Princeton’s Ad-Blocker May Put an End to the Ad-Blocking Arms Race

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The article puts a significant emphasis on the idea that bulletproof ad-blocking technology, assuming that's what this turns out to be in practice, will work long-term becuase of legal restrictions imposed by the FTC. If Google, Facebook, or other multi-billion dollar entities detect an existential threat arising from this or any other technology, rest assured that the laws will change as quickly as is necessary to k…

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