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Re: Steve Jobs live from WWDC 2010

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Post by adolph »

andreyf wrote: post #56
crocowhile wrote: post #48

HD display and movies, 5MP camera, increased battery life, folders and multitasking, gyroscope... I have all this on the Nexus One and that is a 6 months old phone. I think this WWDC is signing the end of an era: jobs has lost his famous innovative advantage and now he is running behind. Android/HTC had these features in their last generation phones and with EVO coming out they are going to make the iPhone 4 obsolete…

No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

Updated: No Verizon. Less 4G than the Evo. Lame.

Re: Steve Jobs live from WWDC 2010

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Post by olefoo »

turtle4 wrote: post #68
NZ_Matt wrote: post #60

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It's only iphone 4 to iphone 4 so it's basically useless most of the time.

Worse that that, you have to be calling someone else with an iPhone, and you -both- have to be using wifi. Don't get me wrong, it is a step up from what they used to have available, but that is kind of a tall order for general consumption.

I can see it being useful for family stuff, "mom's on a business trip but she's going to read you a bedtime story, OK?" sort of thing. The limitations are going to go away pretty quickly I'd bet. Well, except for doing video over 3G but that's only because AT&T doesn't seem to understand how much hatred they are earning.

Re: Steve Jobs live from WWDC 2010

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Post by bbatsell »

herdrick wrote: post #81
poutine wrote: post #70

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You don't understand WIFI. All WIFI devices share the same 2.4/5GHz bandwidth and thus if you have too many devices in one physical location you're screwed.

Sure, but why didn't they use directional antennas to get a demo-dedicated network on the stage? Which would be a good permanent feature for any big conference room come to think of it.

That doesn't eliminate the problem of interference from all of the other networks on the same channel (or on the neighboring channel that shares part of the spectrum), which are all using omnidirectional antennas. It can help, certainly, but 570 Wi-Fi networks in one ballroom is going to be hell on any network chip trying to sort through all the noise.

Re: Steve Jobs live from WWDC 2010

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Post by stcredzero »

tcskeptic wrote: post #84
jokermatt999 wrote: post #76

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Smart phones were available in the US for ages before the iPhone, yet Jobs' and Apple's star power helped them to become more widespread. The whole "reality distortion field" can be used for good if it's to help spread adoption of interesting technologies, imo. I think the fact that it's coming from Apple will help adoption, even if the implementation is the same or even worse.

Really? The iPhone success is a result of a "reality distortion field"? That is essentially what you are saying, that it has all been a result of smoke 'n mirrors and "star power". But it hasn't. For all of the criticisms you can throw and Apple decisions, the iPhone has been truly revolutionary, and the biggest revolution has been that it is a smartphone that doesn't make the average person want to cry when trying t…

it has all been a result of smoke 'n mirrors

The reasons a lot of things don't happen sooner are often "smoke and mirrors," so it's a fitting remedy.

Re: Steve Jobs live from WWDC 2010

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Post by [deleted] »

herdrick wrote: post #81
poutine wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't understand WIFI. All WIFI devices share the same 2.4/5GHz bandwidth and thus if you have too many devices in one physical location you're screwed.

Sure, but why didn't they use directional antennas to get a demo-dedicated network on the stage? Which would be a good permanent feature for any big conference room come to think of it.

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Re: Steve Jobs live from WWDC 2010

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Post by crocowhile »

evgen wrote: post #88
crocowhile wrote: post #69

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N1 has hd video at 20fps. display is better, ok. guitar hero, netflix and farmville I would not call them innovations. farmville is a way to overcome flash of course.

In that case my current iPhone has hd video at 1 fp5s. If it isn't at least 23.976 fps then it isn't hd video. Period.

Let me be clear because here it seems I get a waterfall of downvotes for daring saying something against an apple product.

Multitouch = innovation

Apple store = innovation

GPS = innovation

UI thought for mobiles = innovation

Apple came out first with those things. Then people catched up. This time what is the innovation? A bit more pixels on the display and the farmville client? Are you kidding me?

Re: Steve Jobs live from WWDC 2010

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Post by jodrellblank »

FluidDjango wrote: post #92
gokhan wrote: post #71

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They have to. It will be dead otherwise, based on the current prerequisites (iOS4 to iOS4, only on wifi)

I seem to recall he said the "only on wifi" was a temporary thing - while "we work with cell carriers" (I noted the plural : carrierS).

Hello from outside America; we don't have AT&T.

Re: Steve Jobs live from WWDC 2010

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Post by CrazedGeek »

houseabsolute wrote: post #61
crocowhile wrote: post #48

HD display and movies, 5MP camera, increased battery life, folders and multitasking, gyroscope... I have all this on the Nexus One and that is a 6 months old phone. I think this WWDC is signing the end of an era: jobs has lost his famous innovative advantage and now he is running behind. Android/HTC had these features in their last generation phones and with EVO coming out they are going to make the iPhone 4 obsolete…

You left out all the things you don't have on your Nexus One. An HD video camera, or any camera at all that captures at 30 fps. The Nexus One's display is lower resolution than the announced iPhone display, and some of the Nexus resolution is fake resolution from the novel pixel setup. Video calling. Guitar Hero, Netflix, and Farmville. iAd (you know that is going to be a draw for some developers). Universal copy and…

(there are two Guitar Hero games on Android, fwiw)
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