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Re: Steve Jobs live from WWDC 2010

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It's only iphone 4 to iphone 4 so it's basically useless most of the time.

Jobs: "we’re going to make FaceTime an open industry standard." Should be interesting.

They have to. It will be dead otherwise, based on the current prerequisites (iOS4 to iOS4, only on wifi)

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The FaceTime thing is epic. That said, it just gets more and more dangerous to go out and get hammered and start drunk-dialing people . . . The number of post-bender apologies that I usually have to make will probably go up by at least 50%.

It's only iphone 4 to iphone 4 so it's basically useless most of the time.

For now. Looks like they want to push it as a video chat standard, so, it's gonna be on any Android phones with video camera capacities, front facing or not.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's only iphone 4 to iphone 4 so it's basically useless most of the time.

Jobs: "we’re going to make FaceTime an open industry standard." Should be interesting.

That was easily the most interesting part of the keynote to me (Android user). I already assumed that video calling from Apple would push something similar forward in the rest of the phone community, but the fact that they're going to make it an open standard is phenomenal.

Of course, we'll see what they mean by "open standard" after the recent debacle with Safari's "HTML5 Demo", but I'd like to remain optimistic. Webkit was a nice gift, and hopefully this will be something similar.

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The FaceTime thing is epic. That said, it just gets more and more dangerous to go out and get hammered and start drunk-dialing people . . . The number of post-bender apologies that I usually have to make will probably go up by at least 50%.

The N900 has skype and google talk video calling already, and people don't call that epic. It also works on 3G, unlike the iphone.

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Video chat. It's been available in asia for ~5 years? yet no one uses it. Will it be different in North America?

Smart phones were available in the US for ages before the iPhone, yet Jobs' and Apple's star power helped them to become more widespread. The whole "reality distortion field" can be used for good if it's to help spread adoption of interesting technologies, imo. I think the fact that it's coming from Apple will help adoption, even if the implementation is the same or even worse.

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The FaceTime thing is epic. That said, it just gets more and more dangerous to go out and get hammered and start drunk-dialing people . . . The number of post-bender apologies that I usually have to make will probably go up by at least 50%.

The N900 has skype and google talk video calling already, and people don't call that epic. It also works on 3G, unlike the iphone.

The iphone ecosystem is much larger, at least within the circle of people whom I will have to apologise to for dialing them up and showing them various parts of my body.

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The FaceTime thing is epic. That said, it just gets more and more dangerous to go out and get hammered and start drunk-dialing people . . . The number of post-bender apologies that I usually have to make will probably go up by at least 50%.

The N900 has skype and google talk video calling already, and people don't call that epic. It also works on 3G, unlike the iphone.

You and many others are missing the point of why this is epic. When was the last time a device with so much market penetration and insane adoption rates allowed video chat in such a simple way?

The reason it is epic is because this is the first time it'll actually work. Who cares about N900s? Does my grandma know what an N900 is?

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Video chat. It's been available in asia for ~5 years? yet no one uses it. Will it be different in North America?

Smart phones were available in the US for ages before the iPhone, yet Jobs' and Apple's star power helped them to become more widespread. The whole "reality distortion field" can be used for good if it's to help spread adoption of interesting technologies, imo. I think the fact that it's coming from Apple will help adoption, even if the implementation is the same or even worse.

It's not smart phones that do this legacy video chat, it's 3G feature phones, which are pretty much non-existent in NA. Pretty much every [candybar, flip] phone in asia has 3G and a front facing camera, so you can video call anyone, anytime. Part of the reason people don't is because it costs extra.

Actually since these phones were around before youtube and real mobile browsing, the main marketed reason to get a 3G phone originally was video chat.

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