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U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe

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Re: U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe

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From the (better) BBC story[1], Lamo's quoted saying:

"I hope that Manning gets the same chance as I did - the same chance to take his punishment as I did and start a new life as I did."

"I like to think I prevented him from getting into more serious trouble."

I'm not a fan of Lamo or anything, but this seems dead on.

[1] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10255887.stm

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#3
I think after this Lamo will probably not hear from any more people confessing crimes. Hard to say what the right course of action would be in this situation although if I were Lamo I probably would not voluntarily announce my participation in the investigation.

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post #2

From the (better) BBC story[1], Lamo's quoted saying: "I hope that Manning gets the same chance as I did - the same chance to take his punishment as I did and start a new life as I did." "I like to think I prevented him from getting into more serious trouble." I'm not a fan of Lamo or anything, but this seems dead on. [1] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10255887.stm

How much more serious trouble could Manning get into?

I'm not trying to be argumentative. It's a serious question. He had a very high security rating, and was dumping highly classified documents -- the work of tens of thousands of man hours and billions of dollars of intelligence -- on to the web.

What's the next step past that?

EDIT: wrong guy -- changed name to be what I meant and not what I typed

Re: U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe

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post #2

From the (better) BBC story[1], Lamo's quoted saying: "I hope that Manning gets the same chance as I did - the same chance to take his punishment as I did and start a new life as I did." "I like to think I prevented him from getting into more serious trouble." I'm not a fan of Lamo or anything, but this seems dead on. [1] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10255887.stm

How much more serious trouble could Manning get into? I'm not trying to be argumentative. It's a serious question. He had a very high security rating, and was dumping highly classified documents -- the work of tens of thousands of man hours and billions of dollars of intelligence -- on to the web. What's the next step past that? EDIT: wrong guy -- changed name to be what I meant and not what I typed

> How much more serious trouble could Lamo get into?

You mean Manning, not Lamo?

Re: U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much more serious trouble could Manning get into? I'm not trying to be argumentative. It's a serious question. He had a very high security rating, and was dumping highly classified documents -- the work of tens of thousands of man hours and billions of dollars of intelligence -- on to the web. What's the next step past that? EDIT: wrong guy -- changed name to be what I meant and not what I typed

> How much more serious trouble could Lamo get into? You mean Manning, not Lamo?

Yes.

Thanks. Typo fixed and annotated.

Re: U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe

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Throwaway account.

I personally wouldn't trust Lamo with any information, from past experience.

Few things you should know about Lamo:

1) He loves attention, he will go to some length to make noise so that people will talk about it/him.

2) He was responsible for leaking his own movie on bit-torrent.

3) Lamo was responsible for leaking wikileaks donor list and he bragged about it to me.

I personally don't have high regard for Wikileaks either, as they have their own biased spin on their leaks.

Bottom line. If you are responsible for seriously damaging leaks on the most powerful government in the world the last thing you want to do is to talk about it with someone who has questionable ethics. I also think Bradley Manning is an idiot.

Re: U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe

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post #2

From the (better) BBC story[1], Lamo's quoted saying: "I hope that Manning gets the same chance as I did - the same chance to take his punishment as I did and start a new life as I did." "I like to think I prevented him from getting into more serious trouble." I'm not a fan of Lamo or anything, but this seems dead on. [1] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10255887.stm

How much more serious trouble could Manning get into? I'm not trying to be argumentative. It's a serious question. He had a very high security rating, and was dumping highly classified documents -- the work of tens of thousands of man hours and billions of dollars of intelligence -- on to the web. What's the next step past that? EDIT: wrong guy -- changed name to be what I meant and not what I typed

Accidentally publishing a document that creates a serious operational crisis, thus putting him in military prison for the rest of his life.

Re: U.S. Intelligence Analyst Arrested in Wikileaks Video Probe

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Brad Manning violated the very core values of integrity involved in operating as an IA. In my opinion he doesn't deserve the 'whisteblower' status some people are trying to protect him under.

Leaking a single controversial guncam footage because his conscience gave in is one thing, but continuing to leak documents and material and then boast about it to someone like Lamo is another. As a former Marine, I have seen and done things that keep me awake at night, but I will never violate my own integrity by doing what Manning did and end up endangering more lives.

Lamo ended up turning Manning in for another 15 minutes of fame. Anyone ethical with real national interest in mind would distance himself from this mess. Either way the leaked material will end up doing nothing but costing more lives.

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