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United passenger suffers concussion, broken nose – lawyer

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Re: United passenger suffers concussion, broken nose – lawyer

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I hope he doesn't settle.

I hope he settles, quickly and with a massive payout from United. I hope he laughs all the way to the bank.

That might make it more probable, as compared to a protracted legal battle that just drops out of sight, that a random person will challenge United when put under the same circumstances.

The real culprit here are the LEOs. They had no business getting involved. And, even less business using force. It's another case of LEOs unlawfully escalating to violence. Here I would agree with you: he shouldn't quietly settle his case with CPD.

Re: United passenger suffers concussion, broken nose – lawyer

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I hope he doesn't settle.

I hope he settles, quickly and with a massive payout from United. I hope he laughs all the way to the bank. That might make it more probable, as compared to a protracted legal battle that just drops out of sight, that a random person will challenge United when put under the same circumstances. The real culprit here are the LEOs. They had no business getting involved. And, even less business using force. It's another…

Why would United be liable? They did nothing wrong.

Re: United passenger suffers concussion, broken nose – lawyer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope he settles, quickly and with a massive payout from United. I hope he laughs all the way to the bank. That might make it more probable, as compared to a protracted legal battle that just drops out of sight, that a random person will challenge United when put under the same circumstances. The real culprit here are the LEOs. They had no business getting involved. And, even less business using force. It's another…

Why would United be liable? They did nothing wrong.

They called police in to solve a civil dispute (the contract DOES allow them to make him to leave, and it's an enforceable contract-of-adhesion) which is afaik illegal.

They could have called the FBI (or perhaps some other federal police force) because the passenger violated the federal requirement to obey aircrew. But they didn't

Re: United passenger suffers concussion, broken nose – lawyer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would United be liable? They did nothing wrong.

They called police in to solve a civil dispute (the contract DOES allow them to make him to leave, and it's an enforceable contract-of-adhesion) which is afaik illegal. They could have called the FBI (or perhaps some other federal police force) because the passenger violated the federal requirement to obey aircrew. But they didn't

So I don't know how much you know the law, but I worked at a public swimming pool (run by the city) and we had a patron that was screaming at everyone and refused to leave (she was in the water). We called the police and they told the lady if she didn't get out they'd jump in and remove her by force. She got out and left. Are the circumstances that different in this case if the lady refused to get out and was forced out by the police? (I'm not defending the police or United here but wondering the legality)

Re: United passenger suffers concussion, broken nose – lawyer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They called police in to solve a civil dispute (the contract DOES allow them to make him to leave, and it's an enforceable contract-of-adhesion) which is afaik illegal. They could have called the FBI (or perhaps some other federal police force) because the passenger violated the federal requirement to obey aircrew. But they didn't

So I don't know how much you know the law, but I worked at a public swimming pool (run by the city) and we had a patron that was screaming at everyone and refused to leave (she was in the water). We called the police and they told the lady if she didn't get out they'd jump in and remove her by force. She got out and left. Are the circumstances that different in this case if the lady refused to get out and was forced…

She was creating a public disturbance, which is most likely a violation of the law.

In the case of the United passenger, he was disturbing nobody until after they tried to force him to leave.

Re: United passenger suffers concussion, broken nose – lawyer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope he settles, quickly and with a massive payout from United. I hope he laughs all the way to the bank. That might make it more probable, as compared to a protracted legal battle that just drops out of sight, that a random person will challenge United when put under the same circumstances. The real culprit here are the LEOs. They had no business getting involved. And, even less business using force. It's another…

Why would United be liable? They did nothing wrong.

They may have done nothing illegal (for a court to decide). But they definitely did things wrong.

Re: United passenger suffers concussion, broken nose – lawyer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I don't know how much you know the law, but I worked at a public swimming pool (run by the city) and we had a patron that was screaming at everyone and refused to leave (she was in the water). We called the police and they told the lady if she didn't get out they'd jump in and remove her by force. She got out and left. Are the circumstances that different in this case if the lady refused to get out and was forced…

She was creating a public disturbance, which is most likely a violation of the law. In the case of the United passenger, he was disturbing nobody until after they tried to force him to leave.

If its captain's orders however, then the captain of the airplane should have every right to remove a passenger.

Re: United passenger suffers concussion, broken nose – lawyer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

She was creating a public disturbance, which is most likely a violation of the law. In the case of the United passenger, he was disturbing nobody until after they tried to force him to leave.

If its captain's orders however, then the captain of the airplane should have every right to remove a passenger.

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